14 city firefighters finally promoted

[WillowTree]

NEW HAVEN — His son was 11 when William Gambardella left his house in a snowstorm to take the oral portion of a 2003 civil service test for captain in the Fire Department. His daughter was 6.

“My son is now going into college, and my daughter is a teenager,” Gambardella, 52, a 15-year department member, said after his promotion to captain was approved Tuesday following a half-decade legal fight that ended in the U.S. Supreme Court. “That’s how long the process has taken.”




14 city firefighters finally promoted- The New Haven Register - Serving New Haven, Connecticut




and their pay should be retroactive too!

 

[Claudette]

Absolutely. Bout time.

 

[Zoom-boing]

Wooo Hooo!

 

[Polk]

Damn city government, having the nerve to obey the law. What the hell were they thinking.

 

[pete]

Its amazing the time, effort and money wasted!

 

[saveliberty]

Damn city government, having the nerve to obey the law. What the hell were they thinking.

They did not follow the law (which is why these people eneded up being promoted), they put the public at risk by not seeking the best qualified to protect everyone.

 

[WillowTree]

Damn city government, having the nerve to obey the law. What the hell were they thinking.

The Supreme Court is the highest law of the land. The city should follow the damn law. I agree!

 

[WillowTree]

Damn city government, having the nerve to obey the law. What the hell were they thinking.

They were thinking they didn't want minorities suing them!

 

[Polk]

Damn city government, having the nerve to obey the law. What the hell were they thinking.

The Supreme Court is the highest law of the land. The city should follow the damn law. I agree!

The Supreme Court isn't a law. It's a court.

 

[Polk]

Damn city government, having the nerve to obey the law. What the hell were they thinking.

They were thinking they didn't want minorities suing them!

Which was a reasonable belief, since the test violated Title VII of Civil Rights Act of 1964.

 

[WillowTree]

Damn city government, having the nerve to obey the law. What the hell were they thinking.

The Supreme Court is the highest law of the land. The city should follow the damn law. I agree!

The Supreme Court isn't a law. It's a court.

It rules on law.. it has decided that the Firefighters deserve their promotions. Deal with it.

 

[WillowTree]

Damn city government, having the nerve to obey the law. What the hell were they thinking.

They were thinking they didn't want minorities suing them!

Which was a reasonable belief, since the test violated Title VII of Civil Rights Act of 1964.

not according to the SCOTUS. You lose once again.

 

[Polk]

Damn city government, having the nerve to obey the law. What the hell were they thinking.

They did not follow the law (which is why these people eneded up being promoted), they put the public at risk by not seeking the best qualified to protect everyone.

The entire point was that there weren't look to promote the best qualified, unless you assume the scale used to measure the exams in New Haven (60 percent written, 40 percent oral) is the only reasonable scale. There are other towns in Connecticut which use the same test and put a higher weight on the written portion. And guess what? Placing a higher weight on the written portion would have eliminated any potential lawsuit.

 

[Polk]

They were thinking they didn't want minorities suing them!

Which was a reasonable belief, since the test violated Title VII of Civil Rights Act of 1964.

not according to the SCOTUS. You lose once again.

False. The Court held that local governments must show a reasonable fear of a lawsuit before applying the Title VII rules and that the city of New Haven had failed to show a reasonable fear.

 

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How sad that racism in Connecticut prevented these men from getting a promotion for so long. I hope they fired the racists that caused this problem in the first place.

 

[WillowTree]

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How sad that racism in Connecticut prevented these men from getting a promotion for so long. I hope they fired the racists that caused this problem in the first place.

Yep! These men worked their asses off and passed the test. They deserve their promotions. Just cause somebody else chose not to study ain't their problem.

 

[Polk]

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14 city firefighters finally promoted- The New Haven Register - Serving New Haven, Connecticut

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How sad that racism in Connecticut prevented these men from getting a promotion for so long. I hope they fired the racists that caused this problem in the first place.

Yep! These men worked their asses off and passed the test. They deserve their promotions. Just cause somebody else chose not to study ain't their problem.

Your ignorance knows no bounds. They didn't "pass" because they "worked their asses off". They received higher scores because of the city's choice to place a higher weight on oral portion of the exam that other cities did. Now, I'll give you a chance to pull yourself out of the mud. Do you know why placing a higher weight on the oral portion of an exam is problematic?

 

[WillowTree]

How sad that racism in Connecticut prevented these men from getting a promotion for so long. I hope they fired the racists that caused this problem in the first place.

Yep! These men worked their asses off and passed the test. They deserve their promotions. Just cause somebody else chose not to study ain't their problem.

Your ignorance knows no bounds. They didn't "pass" because they "worked their asses off". They received higher scores because of the city's choice to place a higher weight on oral portion of the exam that other cities did.

what? black people can't talk?

 

[Polk]

Yep! These men worked their asses off and passed the test. They deserve their promotions. Just cause somebody else chose not to study ain't their problem.

Your ignorance knows no bounds. They didn't "pass" because they "worked their asses off". They received higher scores because of the city's choice to place a higher weight on oral portion of the exam that other cities did.

what? black people can't talk?

Swing and miss. Written exams are objective. Oral exams are not. And there is a ton of evidence showing that graders are much more generous in the scoring of oral exams of people of the same race. So when you have a test being administered by white people, they're going to give white people higher scores.

 

[Polk]

Before you start to claim that unsustainable, why were the scores of black candidates as high as the scores of white candidates on the written test, yet half of white candidates passed the overall test while only a third of black candidates did? That can only occur by black candidates having significantly lower scores on the subjective oral examination.