13-Year-Old Looks at Trees, Makes Solar Power Breakthrough

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13-Year-Old Looks at Trees, Makes Solar Power Breakthrough - Technology - The Atlantic Wire

Aidan Dwyer did a much better job on his 7th grade science project than any of us. While on a wintertime hike in the Catskills, he noticed the branches of trees held a spiral pattern as they ascended. He wondered if that could possibly serve some purpose, looked into it, and learned about the Fibonacci sequence, which is a mathematical way of describing a spiral. Then he studied tree branches more closely and found their leaves adhered to the sequence. Then he figured out that if he arranged solar panels the way an oak tree arranged its leaves, they were 20 to 50 percent more efficient than the standard straight-line solar arrays. That is why the American Museum of Natural History gave him a Young Naturalist award, and published his findings on its website.


As the article says, not too shabby for a kid who hasn't even started high school yet.
 
13-Year-Old Looks at Trees, Makes Solar Power Breakthrough - Technology - The Atlantic Wire

Aidan Dwyer did a much better job on his 7th grade science project than any of us. While on a wintertime hike in the Catskills, he noticed the branches of trees held a spiral pattern as they ascended. He wondered if that could possibly serve some purpose, looked into it, and learned about the Fibonacci sequence, which is a mathematical way of describing a spiral. Then he studied tree branches more closely and found their leaves adhered to the sequence. Then he figured out that if he arranged solar panels the way an oak tree arranged its leaves, they were 20 to 50 percent more efficient than the standard straight-line solar arrays. That is why the American Museum of Natural History gave him a Young Naturalist award, and published his findings on its website.
As the article says, not too shabby for a kid who hasn't even started high school yet.


So the arraignment of leaves on a tree follow the Fibonacci sequence, resulting in optimum efficiency.

Wow, one might almost imagine that there was an intelligence behind their design...:eusa_whistle:
 
13-Year-Old Looks at Trees, Makes Solar Power Breakthrough - Technology - The Atlantic Wire

Aidan Dwyer did a much better job on his 7th grade science project than any of us. While on a wintertime hike in the Catskills, he noticed the branches of trees held a spiral pattern as they ascended. He wondered if that could possibly serve some purpose, looked into it, and learned about the Fibonacci sequence, which is a mathematical way of describing a spiral. Then he studied tree branches more closely and found their leaves adhered to the sequence. Then he figured out that if he arranged solar panels the way an oak tree arranged its leaves, they were 20 to 50 percent more efficient than the standard straight-line solar arrays. That is why the American Museum of Natural History gave him a Young Naturalist award, and published his findings on its website.
As the article says, not too shabby for a kid who hasn't even started high school yet.


So the arraignment of leaves on a tree follow the Fibonacci sequence, resulting in optimum efficiency.

Wow, one might almost imagine that there was an intelligence behind their design...:eusa_whistle:
Nope. Purely random. No, really. At least, that's what I've been told.
 
Sometimes it takes a fresh mind to really see things. As we grow up and learn all the crap we do it interferes with our objectivity and inquisitiveness. Our thought patterns become a pattern and we have trouble seeing outside of that pattern.

When we are young our minds are still free and our imagination and inquisitiveness are not constrained.

I remember when I was young I would go out in the woods and sit on a stump and just watch and listen to what was going on around me and wondering why.
 
That's why Republicans don't need to go to school. They learn everything they need to know from "trees".
 
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Awww. :(

Blog Debunks 13-Year-Old Scientist's Solar Power Breakthrough - Technology - The Atlantic Wire

So far, so great. But The Capacity Factor, clearly unhappy with its role of the Grinch who must squash an adolescent's science discovery, has written a post called "In which hopelessly inept journalists reduce me to having to debunk a school science project." (The post as of this moment is temporarily unavailable, though we link to the cache.) The post indicates about Dwyer's discovery: "This is, I'm sad to say, clear nonsense. I'll take this in two parts: one, why his experiment is, unfortunately, completely broken (sorry again). Two, why the imagined result is impossible nonsense."

Part one: "Broken Experiment."

Most importantly, by mistake he did not measure power outputs from the solar cells. Instead he measured voltage, without a load attached ("open circuit"). They are barely related -- in solar cells, voltage is actually almost a constant, independent of power.
Demonstrating the difference with a series of equations and graphs, it comes to this conclusion: "End result: measuring the solar cells' [open-circuit voltage] over time, and adding them up, is garbage data, and has nothing to do with energy production."

Part two: "Unreasonably Theory."

The blog also indicates that the theory behind the discovery itself is problematic: "I'm not sure I understand the confusion by which people think there could be some advantage, to orienting panels at sub-optimal angles. That somehow combining sub-optimal panels, together, makes them generate more energy in the net." It then goes to demonstrate via equations that "if the individual angles in the 'tree' are worse then the 45°-tilted south-facing panels in the flat array (they obviously are), so is their combination."

Finger-pointing: It's not the seventh grader's fault, it's the media's fault.

The blog does not blame the seventh grader for imperfect science, but actually the news media for blowing up this story and putting a 13-year-old into the spotlight for an impressively ambitious but unfortunately incorrect claim. It ends with this open question: "How did this confused science project became international news?"
 
Awww. :(

Blog Debunks 13-Year-Old Scientist's Solar Power Breakthrough - Technology - The Atlantic Wire

So far, so great. But The Capacity Factor, clearly unhappy with its role of the Grinch who must squash an adolescent's science discovery, has written a post called "In which hopelessly inept journalists reduce me to having to debunk a school science project." (The post as of this moment is temporarily unavailable, though we link to the cache.) The post indicates about Dwyer's discovery: "This is, I'm sad to say, clear nonsense. I'll take this in two parts: one, why his experiment is, unfortunately, completely broken (sorry again). Two, why the imagined result is impossible nonsense."

Part one: "Broken Experiment."

Most importantly, by mistake he did not measure power outputs from the solar cells. Instead he measured voltage, without a load attached ("open circuit"). They are barely related -- in solar cells, voltage is actually almost a constant, independent of power.
Demonstrating the difference with a series of equations and graphs, it comes to this conclusion: "End result: measuring the solar cells' [open-circuit voltage] over time, and adding them up, is garbage data, and has nothing to do with energy production."

Part two: "Unreasonably Theory."

The blog also indicates that the theory behind the discovery itself is problematic: "I'm not sure I understand the confusion by which people think there could be some advantage, to orienting panels at sub-optimal angles. That somehow combining sub-optimal panels, together, makes them generate more energy in the net." It then goes to demonstrate via equations that "if the individual angles in the 'tree' are worse then the 45°-tilted south-facing panels in the flat array (they obviously are), so is their combination."

Finger-pointing: It's not the seventh grader's fault, it's the media's fault.

The blog does not blame the seventh grader for imperfect science, but actually the news media for blowing up this story and putting a 13-year-old into the spotlight for an impressively ambitious but unfortunately incorrect claim. It ends with this open question: "How did this confused science project became international news?"

Too bad for the kid. I sure sounded very cool.


The liberal media want solar to be the end all be all and will use a 13 y/o to push thier agenda.
That's why they didn't bother to check.
 
Since the system the kid made his observations on was much more natural and flexible than the (obviously) settled science of rigid solar panels, my advice to this kid would be to take what he has learned about both and see if he can’t improve on the clunky system we have in place.
 
13-Year-Old Looks at Trees, Makes Solar Power Breakthrough - Technology - The Atlantic Wire

Aidan Dwyer did a much better job on his 7th grade science project than any of us. While on a wintertime hike in the Catskills, he noticed the branches of trees held a spiral pattern as they ascended. He wondered if that could possibly serve some purpose, looked into it, and learned about the Fibonacci sequence, which is a mathematical way of describing a spiral. Then he studied tree branches more closely and found their leaves adhered to the sequence. Then he figured out that if he arranged solar panels the way an oak tree arranged its leaves, they were 20 to 50 percent more efficient than the standard straight-line solar arrays. That is why the American Museum of Natural History gave him a Young Naturalist award, and published his findings on its website.
As the article says, not too shabby for a kid who hasn't even started high school yet.

That is what you get for getting your science from reporters.

Blog Debunks 13-Year-Old Scientist's Solar Power Breakthrough - Technology - The Atlantic Wire
 
That's why Republicans don't need to go to school. They learn everything they need to know from "trees".

That is really funny.

Am I the only person here that scrolled all the way to the bottom of the page and read the retraction?
 
13-Year-Old Looks at Trees, Makes Solar Power Breakthrough - Technology - The Atlantic Wire

Aidan Dwyer did a much better job on his 7th grade science project than any of us. While on a wintertime hike in the Catskills, he noticed the branches of trees held a spiral pattern as they ascended. He wondered if that could possibly serve some purpose, looked into it, and learned about the Fibonacci sequence, which is a mathematical way of describing a spiral. Then he studied tree branches more closely and found their leaves adhered to the sequence. Then he figured out that if he arranged solar panels the way an oak tree arranged its leaves, they were 20 to 50 percent more efficient than the standard straight-line solar arrays. That is why the American Museum of Natural History gave him a Young Naturalist award, and published his findings on its website.


As the article says, not too shabby for a kid who hasn't even started high school yet.

I can just see an architect arranging solar panels on a building to conform to the Fibonacci sequence.

Yeah, that'll happen

:cuckoo:
 
Poor kid likely will flunk out due to failing in one or more of:

1. Food (pyramid)(platter) studies.

2. Presidential Physical Fitness Training.

3. Socialist indoctrination.


He oughta give up on plans for college and start a business - in some other country.
 
The kid was on the right course, actually gifted course. Science projects are not peer reviewed, they are for learning the method, applying it, and competing with others. He did all that.

That the media presented it as a 'breakthrough' well it seems it's been done by businesses already, just too expensive, so far.

He's got a bright future, if only the media wouldn't build a kid up, so that others could tear him down.
 
Poor kid likely will flunk out due to failing in one or more of:

1. Food (pyramid)(platter) studies.

2. Presidential Physical Fitness Training.

3. Socialist indoctrination.


He oughta give up on plans for college and start a business - in some other country.

Yea, the Republican Doctrine "Give up on college". Because "college bad".

Republicans in a Conservative College:

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eeDpnGk5ZE4&]Clint Eastwood - I Talk to the Trees - YouTube[/ame]
 
Poor kid likely will flunk out due to failing in one or more of:

1. Food (pyramid)(platter) studies.

2. Presidential Physical Fitness Training.

3. Socialist indoctrination.


He oughta give up on plans for college and start a business - in some other country.

Yea, the Republican Doctrine "Give up on college". Because "college bad".


So, another advocate of The Democrap Mantra:

Jobs bad.

Welfare good.
 
Poor kid likely will flunk out due to failing in one or more of:

1. Food (pyramid)(platter) studies.

2. Presidential Physical Fitness Training.

3. Socialist indoctrination.


He oughta give up on plans for college and start a business - in some other country.

Yea, the Republican Doctrine "Give up on college". Because "college bad".

Republicans in a Conservative College:

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eeDpnGk5ZE4&"]Clint Eastwood - I Talk to the Trees - YouTube[/ame]
You're the ambassador for Smart bad, Stupid good.
 
Yea, the Republican Doctrine "Give up on college". Because "college bad".

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And reality kicks rderp's ass once again.
 

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