$10B payback to UAW in healthcare bill?

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    $10B aimed at union retirees | Detroit Free Press | Freep.com

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    Oh brother....

    We bought the car companies. And their outstanding debt. How much more bailout money do you think they should get?
     
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    It's not enough that the UAW bankrupted 2 of the 3 major US car companies, they want MOREEEEE
     
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    Add this to the list of the myriad of things wrong with the current version of the health bill.

    No Mr President we dont want kickbacks to your political contributors, thank you sir.

    If this 10billion has merit, pull it out of the bill and debate it on the house and senate floors seperately.
     
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    I don't think it's as cut and dried as you think it is. GM could have failed completely and all these people would be out on the street straining the communities where they live. The VEBA funds took stock in lieu of cash and the stocks are worth 30% of what they once were. The forced retirement of those in the gap age group are now hard to insure, and have no jobs. This presents a huge burden on an already badly hurting region.

    We bought GM didn't we? So did we buy just the good parts like the buildings and the robotics and not the liabilities? These people did nothing wrong, they've worked for years and paid insurance premiums and are now out of a job and don't have insurance and are in an untenable position in trying to replace it.
     
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    Since "we" own it , let's sell the "good parts", let the poor laborers split the profit and wash our hands of the entire stupid mess.
     
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    A huge burden on an already hurting nation. It's sleazy and underhanded and yet another example of why they are freaking out that people are actually reading the healthcare bill. How long will this go on? I imagine thousands of people retire from GE every year. Will this be akin to a federal pension? Will this extend to INFINITY AND BEYOND????? :evil:

    P.S. How many of us regular folks have lost a good chunk of our 401K's? Where's our fucking bail out?
     
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    Gosh - Next thing you know, they will be saying we're just as corrupt here in America as it is in all of those Third World countries we send billions to each year. We're becoming a socialist nation so I guess it's time we got on board the kick-back, grease my palm, I'll watch your back bullshit train that all of those other Third World countries enjoy thanks to American dollars. You know, more and more every day, Obama sure does resemble Hitler in his ways and actions. He had good teachers, you know - he's one of those criminal Chicagoland political hacks that everybody just had to have in Washington. Hope the liberals are eating this shit sandwich and enjoying every bite.
     
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    This is an appropriate thing for the healthcare bill, it addresses healthcare of a certain segment of the population that the public option wishes to address. It is however a contractual sidebar to the overall issue and was made separate because of that. I don't think it's sleazy or underhanded, it's part of the comprehensive look at what we're facing and an idea to fix it. It's a loose end. How would you fix it? Did you read the entire article?
     
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    it appears this would apply to even workers who do not have the benefit of a union also, :

     
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    How would I fix it? Sorry - that's above my pay grade. If the auto companies needed that money for their employees, it should have been in the original bailout package. It looks like the UAW might as well be put on the federal payroll.
     

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