Discussion in 'Current Events' started by DavidS, Dec 13, 2008.
The incompetance of the last eight years is simply staggering. Our nation has been damaged in so many ways.
try 16 years
Really? Of course Clinton made some policy mistakes, most notably NAFTA, but we never were in a extreme recession rapidly becoming a major depression. And torture was not a policy of this nation at that time. I think the number of soldiers dead from combat during his two terms was less than 100. And the debt ratio to GNP was actually declining. Your statement is simply an adult version of "you're one two".
bullshit---the policies all started years ago---get off your damn partisan bs
16 years? Who started the war in Iraq? Who organized private corporations to go over to Iraq and help build infrastructure? Who spent all of this money on the war in Iraq?
Not the Clinton administration.
And to play tune to my centrist qualities, after bashing the right, I am now going to bash the left.
Some policy mistakes including NAFTA? Do you have any idea how bad NAFTA is screwing our economy? It allows corporation to outsource American jobs to Canada or Mexico so those companies can save money and the big fat-cat CEOs can make billions more while average mom & pop workers get laid off because their healthcare benefits are too expensive and they actually need more than $10,000 a year, which is NOT more than what an average worker in Mexico needs. Do you know that before Clinton signed NAFTA into law, nearly 50% of Mexicans were living in poverty and now that number has plummeted to only 18%? Where did all of these jobs magically appear from in the mid-late 1990s?? What's even worse is that these companies actually took American jobs away and gave them to Mexicans.
And to further my argument against the Left, if we didn't torture in the 1990s, then why did six people die and why were over 1,000 more injured by the World Trade Center bombing? Why were 19 American soldiers killed and 39 more injured aboard the USS Cole in 2000? How many people were killed in the 1998 bombings of Kenya and Tanzania?
What about the Spaniards? Do they torture people because they lost nearly 200 people and over 1200 were injured on 3/11/04. And the London terrorist attacks? The list goes on and on of people who do not torture yet were killed as a result of Islamic terrorism. Now, do you really want to go on about the BS of our soldiers dying because we torture or do you want to admit that these thugs are using that, our support of Israel, our way of life, the brightness of the sun in the sky and every single other imaginable excuse to bomb us because in the end they have no other reason for killing us other than being blood thirsty animals. Oh, but please, go on and keep talking about how evil America is and how we deserved to be attacked on 9/11. I'm sure that'll make the victims' families feel a hell of a lot better. Do you side with Timmothy McVeigh as well who used our government's policies in Ruby Ridge as an excuse to attack the Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City on April 19, 1995? I'm sure the 19 children who were in the building's daycare center who were killed as a result of the blast are justifable means to an end, eh?
Don't like the government's policies? Kill innocent people. And you side with that. You give it a reason, you give it an excuse... you legitimize it. You should be ashamed of yourself.
What happened in the past affects the present. I would go all the way back to say that FDR and JFK had hands in the current financial breakdown and national debt and budget deficit.
My friend, who is an ex FBI agent and a big right winger, called me the other night because he is going back to Iraq for a second tour of duty. We were talking about Iraq, and he says, "You know the Iraqis all told me they were better off under Saddam. In fact some of the Iraqis even say, 'Bring back, Saddam!' "
I was actually shocked to hear this. I didn't think it was that bad.
Reagan and Bush are responsible for 90% of the National Debt. You cannot cut taxes and have massive increases in military spending without running up huge deficits.
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