100,000 people shot in the US per year! Good guy saving lives?

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    No that was the "I was only following orders" defense.

    You know the kind of defense people like you who can't think for themselves use.
     
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    The shooter where someone is accidentally is shot and killed is a criminal. They are arrested and charged, probably with negligent homicide. What else do you have?

    What is your solution?
     
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    ------------------------------------------- that is an interesting bit of info for those that can comprehend the planning . I think that the 'venzie' government first outlawed private gun ownership and then armed up 'maduros' rabble of militia men supporters eh BHUnit . .
     
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    Yeah....you lose the suicides since they don't count.....you lose the legal inteventions, since they don't count.....

    Where do you put the 1,500,000 times a year that Americans use their guns to stop violent criminal attack? You know.....according to bill clinton's Department of Justice, and barak obama's Centers for Disease control..

    Since you are using the CDC....in 2013 barak obama had them look at all available gun research, at a cost of 10 million dollars....they found that Americans use guns between 500,000 and 3,000,000 times a year to stop violent criminal attack.....

    You know...since you are using the CDC numbers...

    Let's see....even at the lowest end of the CDC research...500,000.....

    500,000 vs 104,852.....can you tell which number is bigger? And of those numbers....those are rapes, robberies and murders stopped....which also means lives saved.......

    So....using your own source, guns save more lives than they take.....a net gain for society...
     
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    No.....that is on your god....the government....your god failed to press "send" when it was time to transmit his criminal record to the FBI.....because had the clerk pressed "send" he wouldn't have been able to buy 4 guns legally....
     
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    The AR-15 is the most popular civilian self defense rifle...it is not and has never been a military rifle....

    Magazine capacity has no bearing on those killed in mass public shootings or in regular street crime....

    You know this by now...since it has been explained to you in great detail...yet you continue to post the crap you just posted.....showing you to be a troll...
     
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    That isn't the correct measure...since of the 9,616 gun murders, 70-80% of the victims are actual criminals.

    And of course....you are wrong.....just a comparison between accidental car deaths, gun murder and accidental gun death shows you are wrong...

    https://www.cdc.gov/injury/wisqars/leading_causes_death.html
    Total car accidental death....

    2015....36,161
    2014....33,736
    2013....33,804
    2012....34,935


    Leading Causes of Death | WISQARS | Injury Center | CDC
    Total car accidental death....

    2015....36,161--------- Gun murder 9,616
    2014....33,736 -------- Gun murder 8,312
    2013....33,804-------- Gun murder 8,454
    2012....34,935 ------- Gun murder 8,897


    Accidental gun deaths...

    Leading Causes of Death | WISQARS | Injury Center | CDC

    2015...489

    2014.....486
    2013 ..... 505
    2012 ..... 548
    2011 ..... 591
    2010 ..... 606
    2009 ..... 554
    2008 ..... 592
    2007..... 613
    2006..... 642
    2005 ..... 789
    2004 ..... 649
    2003 ..... 730
    2002 ..... 762
    2001 ..... 802
    2000 ..... 776
    1999 ..... 824
     
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    Imagine the lives saved as 1,500,000 Americans use their guns to stop rapes, robberies and murders.....the medical bills not created, the cripples not created......
     
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    Yes...out of 1,500,000 defensive gun uses, on average according to bill clinton's Department of Justice research into gun self defense........what this shows is that American gun owners are responsible and do not shoot when they don't have to....

    And, of course....the most important point....as more Americans own guns...our crime rate went down....that is lives saved, money saved, criminals not committing crime...

    We went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 16.3 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2017...guess what happened...
    -- gun murder down 49%

    --gun crime down 75%

    --violent crime down 72%

    Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

    Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.
     

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