10 Things About Obamacare That Just Don’t Make Sense

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    • Expanding a program that one in three doctors won’t accept.
    Obamacare expands a broken Medicaid program that already faces a severe access problem: One out of three Medicaid doctors will not accept new Medicaid patients. If the Obama Administration has its way and every state expands Medicaid, 17 million Americans will be added to the rolls—5.6 million of whom will join the other Medicaid patients who can’t find a doctor.

    • Giving Medicaid doctors a pay raise—for two years.
    Obamacare increases the payment rate for Medicaid primary care doctors up to Medicare payment levels in 2013 and 2014. After those two years, Medicaid doctors will face about a 22 percent payment cut.

    • Giving more government money to low-income Americans in the exchanges than to those in Medicaid
    . The Congressional Budget Office estimates that every low-income individual who chooses to enroll in the new exchanges instead of Medicaid will increase federal spending by roughly $3,000 in 2022, because exchange subsidies will be more generous than the cost of coverage in Medicaid.

    • Using Medicare money to pay for Obamacare.
    Medicare’s finances are in serious trouble, facing a long-term unfunded obligation of $37 trillion and a bankrupt trust fund by 2024. Despite these facts, Obamacare cuts Medicare by $716 billion and then uses that money to pay for new spending rather than putting the money back into a struggling Medicare program.

    • Forcing religious organizations to provide birth control coverage.
    The Obama Administration refuses to exempt all religious employers from its mandate to provide coverage and pay for contraception, sterilization, and abortion-inducing drugs despite religious or moral objections to doing so.

    • Spending $1.68 trillion on a health care law that will leave 30 million Americans uninsured.
    Obamacare’s coverage expansion provisions alone will cost $1.68 trillion over the next 10 years, but even after all that additional health spending, 30 million Americans will be uninsured.

    • Overpricing premiums for young adults—so the government can subsidize them.
    Obamacare’s age rating system forces insurers to charge unnaturally high premiums for younger adults. This will result in more subsidies going to healthy young people in the exchanges than would otherwise be necessary if insurers were allowed to continue charging lower premiums that more accurately reflect younger adults’ lower health care costs.

    • Fixed revenue from a tax.
    Obamacare’s annual fee on health insurers acts like a traditional excise tax—with one unique difference: The revenue collected from the fee will be fixed in any given year, meaning the amount going to the government will remain the same with no relation to how many consumers are actually purchasing coverage, totaling over $100 billion from 2014–2022. Thus, the fewer people that buy insurance, the higher the tax rate will be for those who do.

    • Obamacare gives $3.8 billion to fund CO-OPs—an insurer that is designed to fail.
    It is uncertain whether any CO-OP insurers will actually be created, because there is no obvious market demand, the statute imposes restrictions that make it difficult to establish and operate one, and the law prohibits the most likely and sensible path to setting one up—a divestiture or conversion by an existing health insurer.

    • Obamacare has two types of health exchanges—the law just didn’t describe the second one.
    It includes the American Health Benefit (AHB) and Small Business Health Options Program (SHOP). For the AHB exchange, the law contains requirements for structure, functions, and operations. The law provides no such detail for the SHOP exchange, and thus it is irrelevant—yet it’s in the law.

    Finally, creating a new entitlement when America’s existing entitlements (Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security) are in desperate need of reform, and the country is running annual trillion-dollar budget deficits, doesn’t make much sense either.

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    What's the confusion?
     
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    Wow! Where in the world are you getting your information from?!?! Even the Obama administration has not disputed this on any level. They absolutely have taken $716 billion from Medicare for Obamacare. 100% Fact. It comes straight from the CBO (that's Congressional Budget Office for anyone not informed).

    Please do your homework before posting so we can avoid misinformation like this in the Clean Debate Zone.

    Romney’s right: Obamacare cuts Medicare by $716 billion. Here’s how.
     
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    So we're now adding 30 million people to the healthcare system, without adding one single new doctor, and you're actually excited that only 66% of the doctors will be seeing patients? :cuckoo:

    30 million new patients would be unsustainable even if 100% of the current doctors would accept Obamacare. You really need to take a look at the rest of the world and see the unmitigated disaster that universal coverage has created. In England and Canada, people wait months for basic needs, and years for critical, life-saving surgery.

    You need to be informed - not just being a good soldier for the dumbocrat party and pushing their agenda at all costs.
     
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    Why enter office with $9 trillion in national debt and run that up to $16 trillion in only 3.5 years?

    Why whisper to Demetri Medvedev/Vladamir Putin that you need "space" to enact your foreign policy with Russia until after your final election?

    Why tell the world for 14 days that a YouTube video caused the attack on American personnel in Benghazi when you had national security intel that clearly indicated otherwise?

    Why funnel untraceable firearms to Mexican drug cartels?

    Why appoint a self-admitted communist (Van Jones) to the White House shortly after being elected president?

    I could go on, but I think this is probably enough to drive home the point that I can't possibly testify as to why Obama does all of the very stupid things he does. I can only point out that they are stupid. You'd have to ask Obama himself "why".
     
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    Unemployment absolutely skyrocketed after Obamacare was passed. And since Obama took office, more people have gone on food stamps than any point in US history.

    So you have absolutely zero facts, evidence, or other information that would indicate in any capacity that there will be (and I quote) "fewer unemployed and low-income workers by 2022". In fact, the numbers indicate the exact opposite.
     
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    Sorry, it doesn't work that way. As you stated, freedom of religion is a Constitutional RIGHT. A right means it does not (and I quote) "come down" under any circumstance.

    I want you to consider the profound stupidity of such a statement. If we get to a point where killing you and maybe a hundred thousand others like you is in the "best interest" of the other "300 million individual citizens", are you going to support that? Really? Being a "grandma", you just might cost us too much under Obamcare to keep you alive. Are you ok with us executing you in the best interest of the rest of us? That's the same type of insanity that people such as Joseph Stalin, Adolf Hitler, and Vladimir Lenin, etc. used.

    In the US, an individual and their rights supersede the "good of the whole". If you subsribe to that insane train of thought, there are plenty of communist/socialist/marxist nations you can move to (Russia, Cuba, North Korea, Vietnamn, etc.).
     
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    Uh....so? How is that my problem? How is that the problem of the American people? This is the United States - it's about individual responsibility in this nation. If you're uninsured, that's your problem. It is most definitely not the problem of the federal government and the American tax payer.
     
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    Remind me again where it is written in the U.S. Constitution that it is the responsibility of the federal government to provide healthcare to the people? What section is that in?
     

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