10 Planks of the Communist Manifesto: Look Familiar?

[NYcarbineer]

Yes it does look familiar. It's looks like all the other lame threads just like it.

 

[NYcarbineer]

The political platform of the Ku Klux Klan looks remarkably similar to Conservatism.

What was the point of this thread, again?

 

[occupied]

Funny, with all this talk of us being a communist country, workers controlling the means of production is nowhere to be found.

 

[kaz]

Funny, with all this talk of us being a communist country, workers controlling the means of production is nowhere to be found.

What's funny is your saying it's funny and getting the point wrong. We say Democrats are Marxist because you believe in the planks of the Manifesto, and you do for the same reason that Marx wrote them, which is the planks are a recipe for government dominating a country in every possible way.

You hear that we are a Communist country. Can't even follow the most basic of points. I suppose it's rational for you to think politicians can take care of you better than you given your lack of ability to demonstrate even basic comprehension skills.

 

[bripat9643]

Funny, with all this talk of us being a communist country, workers controlling the means of production is nowhere to be found.

Marx said the community would control the means of production, not the workers. Checkout the 500,000 pages in the federal register if you don't think the government controls production. Also there's Obamacare, where the government controls 1/6 of the economy. Also GM, where the government controls a big portion of the auto industry. The government controls education, policing much of transportation, banking and numerous other industries.

 

[bripat9643]

Funny, with all this talk of us being a communist country, workers controlling the means of production is nowhere to be found.

What's funny is your saying it's funny and getting the point wrong. We say Democrats are Marxist because you believe in the planks of the Manifesto, and you do for the same reason that Marx wrote them, which is the planks are a recipe for government dominating a country in every possible way.

You hear that we are a Communist country. Can't even follow the most basic of points. I suppose it's rational for you to think politicians can take care of you better than you given your lack of ability to demonstrate even basic comprehension skills.

Libturds will be claiming we aren't communist until the day the last TEA Party member is sent to the Gulag.

 

[occupied]

Funny, with all this talk of us being a communist country, workers controlling the means of production is nowhere to be found.

Marx said the community would control the means of production, not the workers. Checkout the 500,000 pages in the federal register if you don't think the government controls production. Also there's Obamacare, where the government controls 1/6 of the economy. Also GM, where the government controls a big portion of the auto industry. The government controls education, policing much of transportation, banking and numerous other industries.

Remind me again how all our industries are being ruthlessly nationalized and the owners put in jail, think I missed that part.

 

[bripat9643]

Funny, with all this talk of us being a communist country, workers controlling the means of production is nowhere to be found.

Marx said the community would control the means of production, not the workers. Checkout the 500,000 pages in the federal register if you don't think the government controls production. Also there's Obamacare, where the government controls 1/6 of the economy. Also GM, where the government controls a big portion of the auto industry. The government controls education, policing much of transportation, banking and numerous other industries.

Remind me again how all our industries are being ruthlessly nationalized and the owners put in jail, think I missed that part.

In time, sugar tits. It will all come to pass once Democrats manage to gain total power.

 

[occupied]

Marx said the community would control the means of production, not the workers. Checkout the 500,000 pages in the federal register if you don't think the government controls production. Also there's Obamacare, where the government controls 1/6 of the economy. Also GM, where the government controls a big portion of the auto industry. The government controls education, policing much of transportation, banking and numerous other industries.

Remind me again how all our industries are being ruthlessly nationalized and the owners put in jail, think I missed that part.

In time, sugar tits. It will all come to pass once Democrats manage to gain total power.

I get it, we are discussing your fears and fantasies rather than reality, as usual.

 

[bripat9643]

Remind me again how all our industries are being ruthlessly nationalized and the owners put in jail, think I missed that part.

In time, sugar tits. It will all come to pass once Democrats manage to gain total power.

I get it, we are discussing your fears and fantasies rather than reality, as usual.

Nope. We are simply looking at the historical trend and extrapolating to the future.

 

[kaz]

Remind me again how all our industries are being ruthlessly nationalized and the owners put in jail, think I missed that part.

Wow, you haven't been paying much attention.

To start, financial Services, energy exploration, energy generation, energy distribution, automotive, air transportation, and ... medical ... are completely dominated by government.

No employer can hire someone and pay them what they agree to, they have to pay a government mandated minimum wage, for their social security and medicare, federal and State unemployment, they are limited to 40 hours or they have to be paid time and a half.

And the Democrats are screaming hysterically there's no control at all.

As for jail, try not following any of those government mandates.

 

[Mr.Nick]

From Wikipedia:
The Communist Manifesto - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

1. Abolition of property in land and application of all rents of land to public purposes. (No Private Property)
2. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax. (We already have that)
3. Abolition of all right of inheritance. (Inheritance Tax)
4. Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels. (Leave the Country, leave your money.)
5. Centralization of credit in the hands of the State, by means of a national bank with State capital and an exclusive monopoly. (Federal Reserve)
6. Centralization of the means of communication and transport in the hands of the State. (FCC and DOT)
7. Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the State; the bringing into cultivation of waste-lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan. (Central Planning and Land Confiscation under the guise of "Saving the Earth")
8. Equal liability of all to labour. Establishment of industrial armies, especially for agriculture. (Military Industrial Complex)
9. Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries; gradual abolition of the distinction between town and country, by a more equitable distribution of the population over the country. (Big AgraBusiness with Gov't Subsidies)
10. Free education for all children in public schools. Abolition of children's factory labour in its present form and combination of education with industrial production. (Gov't schools train Workers not Thinkers)

If someone were to say that the Communists have already taken over, I'd have to agree!

I think labor unions fits #8 better...

Here is a more elaborate list of the communist goals..

Communist Goals - 1963 Congressional Record

Congressional Record--Appendix, pp. A34-A35
January 10, 1963

Current Communist Goals

EXTENSION OF REMARKS OF HON. A. S. HERLONG, JR. OF FLORIDA

IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

Thursday, January 10, 1963​

Mr. HERLONG. Mr. Speaker, Mrs. Patricia Nordman of De Land, Fla., is an ardent and articulate opponent of communism, and until recently published the De Land Courier, which she dedicated to the purpose of alerting the public to the dangers of communism in America.

At Mrs. Nordman's request, I include in the RECORD, under unanimous consent, the following "Current Communist Goals," which she identifies as an excerpt from "The Naked Communist," by Cleon Skousen:

[From "The Naked Communist," by Cleon Skousen]

CURRENT COMMUNIST GOALS

1. U.S. acceptance of coexistence as the only alternative to atomic war.

2. U.S. willingness to capitulate in preference to engaging in atomic war.

3. Develop the illusion that total disarmament [by] the United States would be a demonstration of moral strength.

4. Permit free trade between all nations regardless of Communist affiliation and regardless of whether or not items could be used for war.
5. Extension of long-term loans to Russia and Soviet satellites.

6. Provide American aid to all nations regardless of Communist domination.

7. Grant recognition of Red China. Admission of Red China to the U.N.

8. Set up East and West Germany as separate states in spite of Khrushchev's promise in 1955 to settle the German question by free elections under supervision of the U.N.

9. Prolong the conferences to ban atomic tests because the United States has agreed to suspend tests as long as negotiations are in progress.

10. Allow all Soviet satellites individual representation in the U.N.

11. Promote the U.N. as the only hope for mankind. If its charter is rewritten, demand that it be set up as a one-world government with its own independent armed forces. (Some Communist leaders believe the world can be taken over as easily by the U.N. as by Moscow. Sometimes these two centers compete with each other as they are now doing in the Congo.)

12. Resist any attempt to outlaw the Communist Party.

13. Do away with all loyalty oaths.

14. Continue giving Russia access to the U.S. Patent Office.

15. Capture one or both of the political parties in the United States.

16. Use technical decisions of the courts to weaken basic American institutions by claiming their activities violate civil rights.

17. Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers' associations. Put the party line in textbooks.

18. Gain control of all student newspapers.

19. Use student riots to foment public protests against programs or organizations which are under Communist attack.

20. Infiltrate the press. Get control of book-review assignments, editorial writing, policymaking positions.

21. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and motion pictures.

22. Continue discrediting American culture by degrading all forms of artistic expression. An American Communist cell was told to "eliminate all good sculpture from parks and buildings, substitute shapeless, awkward and meaningless forms."

23. Control art critics and directors of art museums. "Our plan is to promote ugliness, repulsive, meaningless art."

24. Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them "censorship" and a violation of free speech and free press.

25. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV.

26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as "normal, natural, healthy."

27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity which does not need a "religious crutch."

28. Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the ground that it violates the principle of "separation of church and state."

29. Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old-fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation between nations on a worldwide basis.

30. Discredit the American Founding Fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the "common man."

31. Belittle all forms of American culture and discourage the teaching of American history on the ground that it was only a minor part of the "big picture." Give more emphasis to Russian history since the Communists took over.

32. Support any socialist movement to give centralized control over any part of the culture--education, social agencies, welfare programs, mental health clinics, etc.

33. Eliminate all laws or procedures which interfere with the operation of the Communist apparatus.

34. Eliminate the House Committee on Un-American Activities.

35. Discredit and eventually dismantle the FBI.

36. Infiltrate and gain control of more unions.

37. Infiltrate and gain control of big business.

38. Transfer some of the powers of arrest from the police to social agencies. Treat all behavioral problems as psychiatric disorders which no one but psychiatrists can understand [or treat].

39. Dominate the psychiatric profession and use mental health laws as a means of gaining coercive control over those who oppose Communist goals.

40. Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce.

41. Emphasize the need to raise children away from the negative influence of parents. Attribute prejudices, mental blocks and retarding of children to suppressive influence of parents.

42. Create the impression that violence and insurrection are legitimate aspects of the American tradition; that students and special-interest groups should rise up and use ["]united force["] to solve economic, political or social problems.

43. Overthrow all colonial governments before native populations are ready for self-government.

44. Internationalize the Panama Canal.

45. Repeal the Connally reservation so the United States cannot prevent the World Court from seizing jurisdiction [over domestic problems. Give the World Court jurisdiction] over nations and individuals alike.

 

[occupied]

Remind me again how all our industries are being ruthlessly nationalized and the owners put in jail, think I missed that part.

Wow, you haven't been paying much attention.

To start, financial Services, energy exploration, energy generation, energy distribution, automotive, air transportation, and ... medical ... are completely dominated by government.

No employer can hire someone and pay them what they agree to, they have to pay a government mandated minimum wage, for their social security and medicare, federal and State unemployment, they are limited to 40 hours or they have to be paid time and a half.

And the Democrats are screaming hysterically there's no control at all.

As for jail, try not following any of those government mandates.

Lax regulation is hardly the same thing as nationalization, but you knew that.

 

[bripat9643]

Remind me again how all our industries are being ruthlessly nationalized and the owners put in jail, think I missed that part.

Wow, you haven't been paying much attention.

To start, financial Services, energy exploration, energy generation, energy distribution, automotive, air transportation, and ... medical ... are completely dominated by government.

No employer can hire someone and pay them what they agree to, they have to pay a government mandated minimum wage, for their social security and medicare, federal and State unemployment, they are limited to 40 hours or they have to be paid time and a half.

And the Democrats are screaming hysterically there's no control at all.

As for jail, try not following any of those government mandates.

Lax regulation is hardly the same thing as nationalization, but you knew that.

"Lax?" Are you trying to be a comedian?

 

[NYcarbineer]

Funny, with all this talk of us being a communist country, workers controlling the means of production is nowhere to be found.

Conservatism is intellectually bankrupt, so playing on people's fears, especially old worn out fears, is one of the few tools in the conservative toolbox that they can go to.

 

[kaz]

Remind me again how all our industries are being ruthlessly nationalized and the owners put in jail, think I missed that part.

Wow, you haven't been paying much attention.

To start, financial Services, energy exploration, energy generation, energy distribution, automotive, air transportation, and ... medical ... are completely dominated by government.

No employer can hire someone and pay them what they agree to, they have to pay a government mandated minimum wage, for their social security and medicare, federal and State unemployment, they are limited to 40 hours or they have to be paid time and a half.

And the Democrats are screaming hysterically there's no control at all.

As for jail, try not following any of those government mandates.

Lax regulation is hardly the same thing as nationalization, but you knew that.

As I said...

 

[regent]

Marx wasn't an economist. He was a propagandist.

Undoubtedly an economist. After all, he's the progenitor of marxism, an economic (among other things) system.

That's like calling a chimpanzee who pours paint on a canvas and then smears it around an "artist." Marx didn't know the first thing about economics. He came up with convincing sounding excuses for organized plunder.

He was a propaganda artist, but not in a way exclusive to his widely recognized role as an economist among his contemporaries and any modern expert in economics.

He is only recognized as an economist by those who don't know anything about economics. He contributed nothing to the field of economics.

How many economic textbooks fail to mention Marx?
Marx was indeed into history, philosophy, economics and other subjects.
As for propaganda, can we call the Declaration of Independence or Paine's "Common Sense" propaganda?

 

[occupied]

Wow, you haven't been paying much attention.

To start, financial Services, energy exploration, energy generation, energy distribution, automotive, air transportation, and ... medical ... are completely dominated by government.

No employer can hire someone and pay them what they agree to, they have to pay a government mandated minimum wage, for their social security and medicare, federal and State unemployment, they are limited to 40 hours or they have to be paid time and a half.

And the Democrats are screaming hysterically there's no control at all.

As for jail, try not following any of those government mandates.

Lax regulation is hardly the same thing as nationalization, but you knew that.

"Lax?" Are you trying to be a comedian?

Not at all, if regulation was as draconian as people make it out to be we would not be faced with so many instances of it failing to prevent the wrongs it is intended to prevent.

 

[bripat9643]

Funny, with all this talk of us being a communist country, workers controlling the means of production is nowhere to be found.

Conservatism is intellectually bankrupt, so playing on people's fears, especially old worn out fears, is one of the few tools in the conservative toolbox that they can go to.

ROFL! Yeah, Democrats never play on people's fears. they never try to scare old people into believing Republicans are going to take away their Social Security. They never try to scare women into believing that Republicans are going to make birth control illegal.

Libturds are such a hoot!

 

[bripat9643]

Lax regulation is hardly the same thing as nationalization, but you knew that.

"Lax?" Are you trying to be a comedian?

Not at all, if regulation was as draconian as people make it out to be we would not be faced with so many instances of it failing to prevent the wrongs it is intended to prevent.

Wrong again. Furthermore, regulation causes many of the problems turds like you blame on the market. Take the sub-prime mortgage debacle, for instance.