10 nation healthcare poll

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    The Harris Poll® #71, July 2, 2008

    Health Care Systems in Ten Developed Countries: The U.S. System Is Most Unpopular and Dutch System the Most Popular
    In all ten countries substantial, mostly overwhelming, majorities want fundamental reforms or more

    Several recent surveys by Harris Interactive®, including the latest Financial Times/Harris Poll, asked an identical question of cross-sections of adults in ten developed countries about their own health care systems. This research finds that the United States has the most unpopular system:

    Fully 33 percent of Americans believe that the American system "has so much wrong with it that we need to completely rebuild it", and a further 50 percent think that "fundamental changes are needed to make it work better";
    In the other nine countries those who believe they need to completely rebuild their systems vary from only nine percent in The Netherlands and 12 percent in Spain to 15 percent in France, 17 percent in New Zealand, 18 percent in Australia and 20 percent in Italy; all well below the 33 percent in this country.
    The data for this ten-country comparison comes from three different sources, published separately. The data for France, Italy, Spain and Germany come from an FT/Harris Poll conducted in June 2008 for the Financial Times. The data for the United States and Great Britain come from a Harris Interactive survey conducted for the International Herald Tribune and France 24 in May 2008. The data for The Netherlands, Canada, New Zealand and Australia come from a Harris Interactive survey conducted for The Commonwealth Fund between March and May 2007.

    In every country just over 1,000 adults were surveyed either by telephone (the Netherlands, Canada, Australia and New Zealand) or online (the USA, Britain, France, Italy, Spain and Germany). Using these survey results, there are at least two ways to rank the popularity of the systems in these ten countries. One way is based on those who want to "completely rebuild" the system, as follows:

    TABLE A: THOSE WHO WANT TO COMPLETELY REBUILD THE SYSTEM

    Rank

    1
    The Netherlands
    9%
    Most Popular

    =2
    Spain
    12%

    =2
    Canada
    12%

    =4
    France
    15%

    =4
    Britain
    15%

    =6
    Germany
    17%

    =6
    New Zealand
    17%

    8
    Australia
    18%

    9
    Italy
    20%

    10
    United States
    33%
    Least Popular

    Harris Interactive | The Harris Poll - Health Care Systems in Ten Developed Countries: The U.S. System Is Most Unpopular and Dutch System the Most Popular
     
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    Yeah well, all of those countries are SOCIALIST SHITHOLES Chris. I'm sorry to inform you that, but all of Europe is a shithole compared to great AMERICA. People hate each other and kill each other like dogs. "Our" health care "system" is perfect, like Somalia's or Peru's, because in those very advanced nations like our own, those can afford it get health, and those who can't better get a fucking better paying job, those assholes.
     
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    er.....ok.......I guess your mind's made up then. Ever been to any of them?


    Chris: why do all of these studies leave Sweden out?
     
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    All these studies?

    This is the only one I have seen.
     
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    What?
     
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    Sarcasm, dude, sarcasm.
     
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    have any of you lived in any of these countries and had medical care there.....

    futher to make their system work her you will need to adopt more than just the medical system.....oh and make it a 100 times larger as the countries and population are much smaller and much less diverse than the US....
     
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    That is a little of a Red Herring argument. Why did they leave out say Maldova?

    However, if you want to attack the post and poll. Attack that only 1,000 were polled. Sorry, but that number is too small to represent the whole. Attack that no question were provided. Polls can easily be given to get the result you want.

    Such as a anti-UHC system poll question might be, Are you in favor of not choosing your doctor? No! Are you in favor of rationing healthcare? No! Are you in favor of increasing taxes? No! Are you in favor of letting old people Die because they are too expensive to treat? No! ANALYSIS: This is person is against ObamaCare!
     
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    Scarasm! Don't worry Chris, Epsilon is firmly commited to Marxism, so you haven't lose a foot soldier!
     
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    A May 15 poll of likely voters showed that 30% rated our system as poor, but despite the hammering it has taken from Obama and the Congressional Dems since then, on August 3, only 19% rated it as poor. It seems that as the Dems have forced voters to think about the health care system they already have and compare it to the alternatives being considered in Congress and pushed by the WH and to the health care systems they hear about in other countries, a growing number of voters have decided that what they have is better than these alternatives.

    35% Rate U.S. Health Care Good or Excellent - Rasmussen Reports™

    Confidence in U.S. Health Care System Has Grown in Recent Months - Rasmussen Reports™
     

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