Does anyone have good knowledge of Glock?
I’m thinking of buying one but can’t decide on the model or cal.

I’m looking for a good all around, competition, personal protection model.

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I don't particularly care for Glocks, but if you're looking for a personal protection pistol, I'd recommend the 9mm version (I think it's a Glock 17?).

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Yes there is a 17 and some other 9s. Why don't you like glocks?

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I don't care for the feel of the grip. I've never held one that felt comfortable.

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Glock 19's are a slightly smaller alternative to Glock 17's, both 9mm. I'm rather fond of the 19.

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The 19 happens to be the one I'm leaning toward.

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OK, gun owners, I'm curious, what does it take to own a handgun? What I mean by this question is, what is the process for owning a handgun?

My guess is, send your fingerprints to local law enforcement (OK, not a problem, my fingerprints are already in Washington, DC, so another copy can't hurt), law enforcement checks for a criminal record, you have to take a gun safety course.... etc. What else is there? Plus what does a good handgun cost?

I don't own a handgun or any gun, for that matter. However, my neighborhood is slowly becoming kind of, shall we say, Brooklyn-ized. More crack houses, shootings and so forth are in the news.

I'm not seriously considering buying one right now, but if the day comes that I need one, I'd like to be prepared.

It all depends on the state, Karl. There are Fed procedures/laws to purchase that apply to all states. Here it takes a backround check, short waiting period and thats it.

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Just a little advice from a former law enforcement officer..if you are looking for home protection go with a revolver...stay away from the autos...they are more expensive and require alot more maintenance...I would suggest a S&W model 66...it is a 357 mag and has alot of stopping power as well as being reliable...just go to the range regularly...one bullet one kill is the best policy!

They can be purchased for around $350.00 on average!

I should add this…that applies to purchase only. If you want to carry in public there are many more hoops to jump through.

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Model 23, if I had to choose one. .40 cal. gives you more energy in close range social occasions. Most personal defense shootings occur within a distance of 10 feet. Though the 9mm parabellum round is excellent in terms accuracy and velocity, in close range situations it is overkill and has been known to enter and exit the target without even slowing down the threat. A forty cal will put them on their ass.

Glocks are fine weapons, if you can get past the grip angle, the spongy trigger, and cheaper plastic by the year. Glocks aren't what they were ten years ago. I work at Academy Sports and Outdoors. I have had to sen three Glocks back to Smyrna to get front sights put back in them after they fell out during shipping. Like I said, If I had to choose, model 23. Just my 2 cents.

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Look into this one as well.

I bought one and I like it alot.

http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/w...category=15708

There many more good choices in polymer DAO(Double Action Only) handguns. The Beretta PX4 Storm comes to mind. The Springfield XD, the Taurus 24/7, and the H&K P2000 are all excellent handguns. Before you settle on Glock, look around. You might be surprised by what you find.

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Thanks, onthefence. That’s a nice looking Smith.
How many malfunctions have you had while shooting it?
I’ve talked with glock owners that say they have shot hundreds of rounds in the same day and never had a mal.

There are pros and cons with the 9 vs 40. The biggest for me is ammo cost.
Practice , practice, can be expensive, but it’s a MUST.
Although aware, I’m not overly concerned with the pass-through potential of the 9 if loaded with a good JHP. I will admit the 40 is on my list. Much depends on if I elect to carry.

Here’s something that may interest you, 45 vs 9…
http://www.hipowersandhandguns.com/9mm%20vs%2045.htm

BTW what is your store price on the 19 an 23?

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I've put around 2000 rounds through my Smith without a malfuntion. Glocks are the ame way in that sense. Comparatively, 9mm ammo is cheaper and you are right about a JHP. Gold dots or Silver tips are good.

We have Glocks for $496.47. Most other polymer handguns are right around the the 450-500 dollar range. The H&K is of course more at $769. Good luck with whatever you decide on.

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“Equality, rightly understood as our founding fathers understood it, leads to liberty and to the emancipation of creative differences; wrongly understood, as it has been so tragically in our time, it leads first to conformity and then to despotism”

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What set the Smith M&P above the Glock for me is the steel chassis. The M&P has a steel chassis embedded in the polymer frame. Everything that makes a handgun a handgun is steel in the M&P. No other polymer handgun has this feature.

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President Ronald Reagan

“Equality, rightly understood as our founding fathers understood it, leads to liberty and to the emancipation of creative differences; wrongly understood, as it has been so tragically in our time, it leads first to conformity and then to despotism”

Barry Goldwater