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Quote: Originally Posted by DiveCon after the trial
but only seconds after the gavel strikes  I'm glad you at least would grant a suspected pedophile a trial.
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Quote: Originally Posted by Gunny
Y'all need to lighten up a bit.
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Quote: Originally Posted by Anguille I've been thinking a lot about how overprotecting kids might set them up for anxiety problems and might even be indicative of anxiety disorders in the parents. But I notice that parents who do this kind of thing often get wrong or unbalanced feedback from society saying that they are being good concerned parents when they do it. Parents who give their kids more freedom so that they can make their own mistakes and learn from them are called too permissive or even negligent.
Pop culture seems to be pushing parents to be over protective, even to the point where they harm their kids psychologically. I think a lot of it is the way that stranger danger and other kinds of paranoia are really overblown in the media. Consider, for instance, online safety. I've always felt with my kids that the best thing I could do was allow them to gradually take responsibility for their own safety online. My daughter had her first myspace in 6th grade. Instead of resisting the lure of technology, I shepherded her online, helped her build her first profile, and was her first friend. I've always been one of her friends, and I review her profile about once a week. I taught her how to set her settings so that strangers couldn't contact her, and when we played online games together, I taught her how to handle people who made her feel uncomfortable (block, report, etc.). She is incredibly competent and responsible online, and has been coding in html and other programs for years now.
But, I know that a lot of people are terrified of myspace and don't allow their kids on it at all. The irony is that the kids are there, anyway, WITHOUT any adult supervision, and behind their parents' backs.
Which is safer?
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Quote: Originally Posted by catzmeow Even nicer. How many people in real life have you tormented to the point of near suicide?
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Quote: Originally Posted by Anguille I'm glad you at least would grant a suspected pedophile a trial.
I am not against the death penalty in certain cases, but don't agree that it should be applied to anyone other than murderers or traitors who treachery caused death. i dont oppose the death penalty, but i was being sarcastic in that last post
i think they should have a reasonable time to apeal the trial | 
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Quote: Originally Posted by Anguille How many people in real life have you tormented to the point of near suicide?
And why would you be so proud of this ability? Only my ex-husband, and it was well-earned. The near-suicidal part came when he realized he'd be paying financially for his infidelity for the next 15 years.
In hairyonidancer's case, she's had multiple opportunities to knock her nonsense off. She should do so. Instead, she chooses to make all kinds of nasty comments about me and my kids, drawing from long-ago conversations to make totally non sequitur observations.
However, if hairyonidancer is so emotionally unstable that she can be tormented to the point of near suicide on an online message board, she should unplug her computer, put on a strait jacket, and check herself into a local mental health facility.
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Quote: Originally Posted by catzmeow
But, I know that a lot of people are terrified of myspace and don't allow their kids on it at all. The irony is that the kids are there, anyway, WITHOUT any adult supervision, and behind their parents' backs.
Which is safer? Exactly. People think they can keep their kids off MySpace or prevent them from having sex by just telling them they can't. But most kids are going to disobey if they really want to do it, so all a parent can really do is offer advice and be available to the kid when they ask for guidance. | 
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Quote: Originally Posted by Anguille Exactly. People think they can keep their kids off MySpace or prevent them from having sex by just telling them they can't. But most kids are going to disobey if they really want to do it, so all a parent can really do is offer advice and be available to the kid when they ask for guidance. That's kind of my thinking. Some of these things are inevitable, so we are either just delaying it, where possible, or arming them with the information they need to make wise choices.
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Quote: Originally Posted by Anguille Exactly. People think they can keep their kids off MySpace or prevent them from having sex by just telling them they can't. But most kids are going to disobey if they really want to do it, so all a parent can really do is offer advice and be available to the kid when they ask for guidance. they shouldnt just be telling them "they cant"
that is bad parenting in my opinion
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Quote: Originally Posted by catzmeow Only my ex-husband, and it was karmic.  In hairyonidancer's case, she's had multiple opportunities to knock her nonsense off. She should do so. If hairyonidancer can be tormented to the point of near suicide on an online message board, she should unplug her computer, put on a strait jacket, and check herself into a local mental health facility. Obviously you are proud of being a bully and would take no responsibility for any harm you caused someone.
That's sad.
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Quote: Originally Posted by Anguille Obviously you are proud of being a bully and would take no responsibility for any harm you caused someone. Or, I'm exaggerating to make a point. You know, they say that loss of the ability to sense sarcasm is an early risk factor for dementia.
Let me ask you, oh moralistic one. Say a woman on a message board made constant references to topical references you'd made to your kids, in a non-sequitur fashion designed to mock you. Brought up conversations you'd had in the past, out of context, to discredit you. Falsified information about your sex life and posted it online, in the middle of conversations you were attempting to have.
And, you knew, in point of fact, that she'd made frequent sexually explicit references to her personal intimate relationships, on a public bulletin board.
How long would you take that shit before you started dishing some back?
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Quote: Originally Posted by catzmeow That's kind of my thinking. Some of these things are inevitable, so we are either just delaying it, where possible, or arming them with the information they need to make wise choices. And then there is fucktard.
Who wants to give them guns, voting rights, and everything else that adults do.
Of course, his argument is that they should also be able to work to pay for these things while ignoring school. Since you know, he believes that since he purposely flunked out of school, got his GED (which just about anyone can pass), and went to college early makes him a expert on the education system.
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Quote: Originally Posted by DiveCon they shouldnt just be telling them "they cant"
that is bad parenting in my opinion
better to explain why they shouldnt Yup. The "because I said so" method just doesn't work with teens. I think we can most of us remember hearing that at least once in our lives and how frustrating it was. | 
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Quote: Originally Posted by Robert_Santurri And then there is fucktard.
Who wants to give them guns, voting rights, and everything else that adults do.
Of course, his argument is that they should also be able to work to pay for these things while ignoring school. Since you know, he believes that since he purposely flunked out of school, got his GED (which just about anyone can pass), and went to college early makes him a expert on the education system.  Indeed. Let's just give them the car keys and a fifth of jack to take driving with them, while we're at it.
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Quote: Originally Posted by Agnapostate You fucking moron, would I have linked you back to a site where I told people to lie if I was lying? Yeah. Clever strategy there.
Now, listen, you pathetic idiot. Since you have only limited exposure to Stirner, and can't intelligently discern between ethics and political philosophy, just shut your mouth.
You make it harder and harder for me to just not break down laughing at your idiocy. 
You're so arrogant that you do believe people wouldn't find such information. And nobody ever said you were clever, you're clearly not despite the fact you think you are.
I already made the difference between ethics and political philosophy, now go be a good Egoist Anarchist and fight the machine or whatever.
I'm already laughing at your idiocy and have been for a long time. You seem to think that your opinion automatically equals fact. Sorry fucktard, watching every video and reading every book by Singer doesn't make you a genius.
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