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Old 07-04-2008, 11:08 PM
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The only way that would be true is if Democrats were outnumbered by Republicans in the over forty set. There's no evidence of it.

Besides, Churchill never actually said that.

Quotes Falsely Attributed To Him - The Churchill Centre

I dearly hope I haven't inadvertently added to your dejection.
Wrong bud

here is the exact quote

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Show me a young Conservative and I'll show you someone with no heart. Show me an old Liberal and I'll show you someone with no brains. - Winston Churchill
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Winston Churchill - Quotes, Winston Churchill Quotes

Oh and here are a couple more quotes from Churchill on liberalism and socialsim

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Socialism is the philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the gospel of envy. - Winston Churchill



A liberal is a man with both feet planted firmly in the air. - Winston Churchill

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I just find it funny that he picked fightthebias.com over the churchill center for what churchill really said.

now that's funny... but then again one site supported his pov. the other just had more credibility.

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A closet democrat is an individual that publicly presents his views and lifestyle as a conservative but in hiding he lives as a democrat with a liberal lifestyle.
A closet republican is an individual that publicly presents his views and lifestyle as a democrat but in hiding he lives as a republican with a conservative lifestyle.

Anyway, what makes what those two characters did cause them to be closet democrats? In my book they are republicans that did embarrassing things. Republicans do bad things? Democrats do bad things.
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Anyway, what makes what those two characters did cause them to be closet democrats? In my book they are republicans that did embarrassing things. Republicans do bad things? Democrats do bad things.
Well, first, he's apparently dumb as a post, so he seems to get confused.

Second, to people like him, good = repub; bad = dem. Retarded, I know, but what can you do?
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Neither. A person uses drugs for a wide variety of reasons...and some of those people are Republican, Conservative, Christian and appear to be upright citizens.

Being a Democrat does not automatically make you pro-drug. There are many Democrats with children who do not want drugs to be legalized.
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A closet democrat is an individual that publicly presents his views and lifestyle as a conservative but in hiding he lives as a democrat with a liberal lifestyle.
What IS a "democratic liberal lifestyle", anyway?

How does one life it?

Can you be more specific?
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Old 07-05-2008, 09:01 AM
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Dems?

The Dem leadership is even more pro-prohibition than Republicans.

Look at the numbers of arrests and money spent under Dem v Rep. administrations on anti-drug programs.

Wake up and smell the partisan nonsense.

Stop imagining that you understand what's going on based on some caracture of liberals and conservatives that exists only in your head because of the media crap you feed on.

Pay attention.
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Old 07-05-2008, 09:09 AM
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I'm sure this has been addressed on here before, but I'm new so forgive me if it has.

Just wondering, thoughts on legalization of pot.

Yes?

No?

Now, since the person who started this thread thinks it's a Repub./Demo. thing, state where you stand on that political scale if you don't mind.

Me thinks Independents/Demos say Yes, Republicans/Conservitives say no.
Republicans and Democrats say no because that is what the alcohol lobby pays them to say.

IMO, most conservatives/indpendents don't give a crap anymore than liberals do. It most definitely is a government intrusion on civil rights; which, would preclude it being a conservative ideal.

The only real difference between the two ideals is not whether or not they want to control, but WHAT specifically they want to control.
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Old 07-05-2008, 09:14 AM
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My personal view is that marijuana should remain illegal in public. My own personal view is that if an individual wishes to do any drug or even shoot battery acid in their veins he should be allowed to do so in private. Nobody has the right to interfer with the rest of us therefore there should be nothing in their bloodstream when they are in public. I should not have to step over or walk around a heroin addict passed out on the sidewalk much less face some druggie in an automobile.

The good thing about drugs is that they get rid of a lot of useless trash. The bad thing is that they take a lot of good hardworking people with them. Drugs are an expense to all of us.

My reason for posting this is that whenever drugs are spoke of the liberal democrats always seem to be a spokesperson for them. How many times have you heard some liberal say "marijuana expands my mind"? Drugs are merely an escape from a depressed life that is difficult for that person to live in. Democrats are always depressed about everything. Conservatives are much more satisfied with their lives and future and for the most part are not trying to numb their mind.

My question still stands. Does the democrat use drugs because of his views or is he a democrat because he uses drugs?
Liberal views in and of themselves do not require drug use.

Is it so hard to conceive that one might be a Democrat because of their drug use? After all, it is the issues that are important to us that define which party we choose to support based on which side of issues each party claims to represent.
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Liberals are far more likely to create laws against drug use than conservatives. Afterall, liberals advocate more laws to protect everyone.

THIS conservative would much rather the government butt out of our personal indulgences that aren't harming anyone else.
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Liberals are far more likely to create laws against drug use than conservatives. Afterall, liberals advocate more laws to protect everyone.

THIS conservative would much rather the government butt out of our personal indulgences that aren't harming anyone else.
No. Conservatives would much rather the government butt out of our economic lives. They are more in favor of tax cuts and reductions in spending – particularly on domestic social programs.

With respect to “vice” – prostitution, drug use, gamboling, etc. the conservatives are much more repressive in their socio-political platforms.

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Yes, and just because they call themselves the Churchill Center you think they are the end all source on Churchill. You do realize it is an un-Authorized site with no legit connection to Churchill or his family right.

I guess I can make a site called the OBAMA CENTER and say what ever I want and you will call it good eh.

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Liberal views in and of themselves do not require drug use.

Is it so hard to conceive that one might be a Democrat because of their drug use? After all, it is the issues that are important to us that define which party we choose to support based on which side of issues each party claims to represent.
Yes, it is hard to concieve given that the Democratic Party shows no sign whatever of having a clue.

Barny Frank has recently introduced a bill legalizing (or perhaps decriminalizing) hemp, but I don't expect the majority of Dems to support it.

It would not surprise me at all to discover that as many Rs vote for that bill (not many) as Ds.

there STILL ARE genuine Republican conservatives who really DO OBJECT to the government insinuating itself into people's lifes.

We all do remember, don't we that Bill Buckley was against the war on Drugs for decades?

That is entirely consistent with the traditional hands-off approach of genuine old time American conservative thinking.

The War on Drugs is one of the issues which puts me into the Indie camp.
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