Tim Tebow Super Bowl Ad May Be Based On Falsehood

So let me get this straight. A man cannot have a medical condidtion where he may choose to weigh the risk of not following a doctor's advice?

You're in medical school right?

And you wonder why people don't listen to doctors.

Ask me a question. At what point would I not take the advice of a doctor?

It depends on the specifics which you have not given.

What?

The whole point is that a woman does have a choice. But you want it to be a choice you agree with.



I said I saw the ad as it was aired on TV and in that ad I did not hear any advice to do anything.

That was a question if you didn't get it and you said So what is an idiotic manner? Going against medical advice and having a kid?



I am but I don't know why i bother.

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oops! I accidentally reread one of your posts, Pilot.

LOL! they all sound alike.

You flunked 3rd grade Logic, I see.

So do as I say but not as I do?

Where did I say you were wrong?

I said you were self righteous and judgmental

I am correct in that assessment.

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I never stated that. We were talking specifically about placental abruption, which you deemed no less dangerous than riding in a car.

Idiotic. Find a Dr. who will tell you that it's not a medical emergency.

Yes, you obviously are not.

Not really.

And is further pointless since I see no need to play 20 questions with you. I've never stated you don't have a choice. I've stated I disagree with a person taking their poor choices and advising other people to do the same.

Bullshit. Tell me what I do and do not "agree with". Please.

No shit. My take on the SB ad, since you obviously didn't read it:

http://www.usmessageboard.com/1988152-post303.html

Intellectual dishonesty tends to do that to me.

You are obviously not.

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No, I should take a look.

Do. I'd be interested in your opinion. Tebow's mom never states she was diagnosed with a placental abrubtion in the ad. Instead, she states she had to deal with a Dr. who appeared to think she should abort the baby for reasons unknown (seriously, other than stating that the Dr. deemed it as "just a mass of cells" we are never told why). This bad Dr./Patient encounter convinced Mrs. Tebow to abandon any prenatal care for her child until delivery (maybe she couldn't find another Dr.?)

It wasn't until the delivery that they discovered the placenta had a minor abruption.

Granted, it's a form of a PSA, so I can understand the desire to not get in the weeds in the medical jargon that I am hung up on, but again, it seems like "much ado about nothing".

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Remember ladies, don't have an abortion if your life is in jeopardy. You will be fine and have a potential nfl player for a kid.

Makes sense.

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Sarah "Twitter Quitter" is a retard. I say this satirically of course.

You said more than once that because I was not a woman.....

And the question you asked about risk was not about a specific medical condition.

Do you want me to quote it again?

And I said having a kid was no more dangerous than getting in a care before placental abruption was mentioned. After I posted that mothers don't usually die from it

which is where you jumped in.

Try to keep up.
Who said it wasn't?

And now I know why I don't trust doctors.

She has every right to say what she did. Even if you don't agree with it.

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Coming from you, that last statement is too funny.

Since you are hopelessly lost, let me draw you a map: the issue has always been placental abruption, which you've deemed as not that serious since a website told you that most of the time the mother lives. Prior to the Superbowl, my issue with the ad is that, per the hype around it, Tebow's mom choose to ignore medical advice and was going to advise other women to do the same. After the Superbowl, I stated the hype was much ado about nothing. Now, after seeing the FOTF ad, I am dubious that Tebow's mom was ever knowingly in a medical predicament where she had to make a hard choice. I am beginning to suspect that she might have hyped the severity of the matter a little bit.

Now let me address something else you said that was curious; that riding in a car was more dangerous than childbirth. It's curious because childbirth has, historically, been the leading mortality factor for women. If it is deemed as "not that dangerous" now it is because medicine has advanced and women listen to their Drs.

I am assuming you are going to claim you did not. I agree you did not state that directly, though you were pretty dismissive of the matter earlier.


Good thing for you, I am not a doctor.

Wow, now you are going to skew this into a first amendment issue?

Guess what, I never stated she didn't have a right to say what she said.

Guess we can get rid of that strawman, huh?

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no, i'm saying you neither support, honor nor respect mrs tebrow's right to make her *foolish* choice. quite the opposite, in fact. you've mocked, demeaned and questioned the truthfulness of the woman throughout this thread.

i thought i was pretty clear. *shrug*

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Amazing! Someone even denser than Skunk Pilot! Mrs T.' s right is something she shares with every woman in America. Her penchant for flights of fancy, attention seeking and lying is something she only shares with a few. I'm sure with not much more effort you can attain her standard too.

You can't be this dense. Its a fucking figure of speech. It doesn't literally mean its performed in a back alley shit for brains. Do you not understand basic figures of speech? How many hours do you stay up wandering how kids who "grow up on the street" don't get run over by cars while they are sleeping?

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I got in to the thread late. There was no mention in the ad that was aired about her condition. I didn't seek out any other versions of tha ad because the ad that aired during the game was the issue not the ad on piece on the internet.

If you just watched the aired ad, there was nothing offensive about it.

My point was that after all the hype and hyperbole, the ad that was aired was pretty benign.♠

Historically, people didn't live much past 40. Childbirth is not the danger it used to be. I thought you wanted to be a doctor, you should know this. Even Mrs Tebow's condition is not fatal. With the proper care a woman with placental abruption won't usually die from it.

So if she made that choice good for her. If another woman makes that choice, it is none of your concern.


Let's hope you never will be.

Not at all. She made a choice you didn't disagree with and you believe she shouldn't tell anyone about it because they might make the same "idiotic" choice.

Basic right of free speech there.

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