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06-28-2008, 12:54 PM
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06-28-2008, 01:18 PM
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Rep Power: 43 | | | Seems to me that there's no reason such a vehicle couldn't work in principle.
The moving vehicle generates electicity which breaks down the water, then the hydrogen it breaks out of the water molecule makes it go vroom! (only it'll probably sound more like eeeeeeeeee!) There is an economy after hydrocarbons, if we can just get the oiliocracy out of power. | 
06-28-2008, 01:26 PM
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Rep Power: 83 | | | Now I'm no scientiest, but considering that water vapor is a green-house gas, wouldn't water-powered cars be just as bad? Water-vapor absorbs more heat than CO2. And honestly, people are already fighting over water to drink. I personally, don't care to start fighting over water to fuel my car. I'm not sure of the logistics of this water-powered car, but I would put some serious consideration on it before jumping in... just my feeling. | 
06-28-2008, 01:45 PM
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Rep Power: 21 | | | If there is something to this, can you imagine? These guy better keep their technology close to the vest otherwise Exxon or Shell will show up at their door. They have gotten used to their blotted profits and certainly don't want to see anything that might stop the flow of money.
The environmental affects of water as fuel could be more profound that the food shortage we are seeing now.
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Rep Power: 1 | | | Cathode + anode + water, -> hydrogen + oxygen
In other news, someone found a car that runs on no fuel whatsoever: it just needs a very large slope to run down.
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06-28-2008, 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by editec There is an economy after hydrocarbons, if we can just get the oiliocracy out of power. | Getting the "oilicrats" to let go of their trillions will be the challenge. They are probably plotting a take over of this Japanese company right now.
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06-28-2008, 07:06 PM
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06-29-2008, 07:55 AM
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Rep Power: 43 | | | Thought just occured to me.
In order to run on H2O it has to be distilled water.
Also there's the question of what the effect of huge amounts of O2 would be on the atmosphere, too.
Because 02 would be the by product of breaking down those molecules would it not?
200,000,000 vehicles spewing flammable o2 into the atmosphere?
Sounds like that's a problem waiting to manifest to me.
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06-29-2008, 08:11 AM
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Rep Power: 79 | | | The problem is too many people are demanding too many things that require energy. If we had and endless supply of clean energy, we would already be facing our next shortage crisis.
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Originally Posted by editec Thought just occured to me.
In order to run on H2O it has to be distilled water. |
No it doesn't. Why would it? I could piss in a electrolytic cell's aqueous solution and it would not harm anything. Quote:
Originally Posted by editec Also there's the question of what the effect of huge amounts of O2 would be on the atmosphere, too. | They can use the oxygen to combust the hydrogen. Its a molarity partiy is perfect for combustion, too. H20----electrolysis---> H2+O ---combustion----> H20 + energy Quote:
Originally Posted by editec The solution is STILL solar, folks. | No. Solar sucks for the time being. Maybe in a couple decades.
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Originally Posted by nomdeplume No it doesn't. Why would it? I could piss in a electrolytic cell's aqueous solution and it would not harm anything. | Really? either I have been misinformed or you have. Quote: |
They can use the oxygen to combust the hydrogen. Its a molarity partiy is perfect for combustion, too. H20----electrolysis---> H2+O ---combustion----> H20 + energy
| They don't combust the H20, all that would do is make steam. They use elctrolysis. see: H2O - The Mystery, Art, and Science of Water: The Chemistry of Water: Electrolysis Quote: |
No. Solar sucks for the time being. Maybe in a couple decades.
| Better start working on it NOW then, eh?
Read recently that with TODAY's TECHNOLOGY we could build sixteen solar gerationing plants in someplace like Nevada for the same cost as ONE nuclear power plant. they're combine output would be far greater than that one nuke plant but I can't remember how much greater.
So I think the financial problems of generating electicity with solar cells is already not the problem.
I think the problem is really getting the poltical will to finance such projects. | 
06-29-2008, 10:52 AM
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Rep Power: 83 | | | It will be far from it when it happens, but we need an unregulated and uncapitalized energy source to solve our problem. SOLAR.... | 
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Originally Posted by editec Really? either I have been misinformed or you have. | You are misinformed. Over years/months, metal ion tainted water my cause a buildup of metal on the electrodes, but it would have very little effect on the cell. The electrodes will have to replaced anyway. Quote:
Originally Posted by editec They don't combust the H20, all that would do is make steam. They use elctrolysis. see:
| Where did I say they combust H20? H2O - The Mystery, Art, and Science of Water: The Chemistry of Water: Electrolysis Quote:
Originally Posted by editec Better start working on it NOW then, eh? |
We have been. NASA has big stake in it(it's vital to space exploration), as well as many private industries messing with it.
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