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This pisses me off....... and why the f**k are the liberals, progressives, or whatever the Hell they are calling themselves these days are OK with this????
Because Obama can do no wrong.

Right, USMB lefties?
When they first came out with "Easy Pass" (I thought it was a stool softener) some friends saw it as a way for Big Brother to know just where you were...
...imagine how they are going to feel about the gov knowing exactly who was criticizing 'em.
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This pisses me off....... and why the f**k are the liberals, progressives, or whatever the Hell they are calling themselves these days are OK with this????
Because Obama can do no wrong.

Right, USMB lefties?
When they first came out with "Easy Pass" (I thought it was a stool softener) some friends saw it as a way for Big Brother to know just where you were...
...imagine how they are going to feel about the gov knowing exactly who was criticizing 'em.
What happened to the Left in this country? Don't trust anyone over 30. ESPECIALLY don't trust the government.

Now a small portion of the Left is hard at work using the government to screw us all over...with the blessing of the rest.
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India is issuing all citizens biometric IDs. Are we next?

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The operation will be run by the Unique Identification Authority, a new government department created specifically for the task of assigning every living Indian an exclusive number and gathering and electronically storing their personal details.

It is hoped that the operation, which is expected to cost at least £3 billion, will fight corruption but it could also be used to identify illegal immigrants and tackle terrorism.

Nandan Nilekani, who is in charge of the operation, called it a "humongous, mind-boggling challenge."

"But we have the opportunity to give every Indian citizen, for the first time, a unique identity. We can transform the country," he told The Times.

At present Indian citizens can be issued with up to 20 proofs of identity, including birth certificates, driving licences and ration cards, although none is accepted universally.

A computer chip in each card will contain personal data and proof of identity, such as fingerprint or iris scans. Criminal records and credit histories may also be included.

Mr Nilekani, who left Infosys, the outsourcing giant that he co-founded, to take up his new job, wants the cards to be linked to a “ubiquitous online database” accessible from anywhere.
India to issue all 1.2 billion citizens with biometric ID cards - Telegraph

I wonder . . . is that a fundamental transformation?
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This isn't news. Something along this line has been in the pipeline for years, as well as the numerous other schemes to restrict the internet like abolishing net neutrality, SOPA and PIPA. They'll get away with something like this eventually, under the guise of cracking down on illegal activities such as child pornography. They already nabbed wiretapping rights under the Bush administration.
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This isn't news. Something along this line has been in the pipeline for years, as well as the numerous other schemes to restrict the internet like abolishing net neutrality, SOPA and PIPA. They'll get away with something like this eventually, under the guise of cracking down on illegal activities such as child pornography. They already nabbed wiretapping rights under the Bush administration.
"They'll get away with something like this eventually..."

Another reason why the election of 2012 is critical.

1. The Left understands the importance of control of the avenues of information dissemination. An important member of the Obama team, and Mark Lloyd’s new boss at the FCC, Julius Genachowski…classmate of Obama at Columbia, and at Harvard Law….and a top fundraiser.

2. Genachowski’s press sec’y is Jen Howard, who was Robert McChesney’s press director at the Leftist ‘Free Press.’ Jen Howard Named Genachowski's Press Secretary | Benton Foundation


3. Free Press was founded by Robert McChesney, and on his board sat Marxist Van Jones, former ‘Green Jobs Czar’ for Obama.

4. Insight into Free Press, and the Center for American Progress can be seen in “The Structural Imbalance of Political Talk Radio,” co-authored by Mark Lloyd. The following from their policy report: http://www.americanprogress.org/issu...talk_radio.pdf

a. “…more than 90 percent of Americans ages 12 or older listen to radio each week, “a higher penetration than television, magazines, newspapers, or the Internet.”… Americans listened on average to 19 hours of radio per week in 2006…conservative talk radio undeniably dominates the format…91 percent of the total weekday talk radio programming is conservative, and 9 percent is progressive

b. The two most frequently cited reasons are the repeal of the Fairness Doctrine in 1987 and simple consumer demand….Ownership diversity is perhaps the single most important variable contributing to the structural imbalance based on the data.


5. “This slanted paper whines that AM talk radio is dominated by conservative views and suggests that liberal views should be forced upon the talk radio industry. That left-wing idea, of course, is bad enough, but the group that Lloyd was working with to have the paper published shows ties to left-wingers, out right Marxists and other haters of this country and that connection should have disqualified Lloyd for service in the federal government. at the end of September of 2001, right after the Twin Towers fell, McChesney said that the United States was the, “leading terrorist institution in the world today.” In February of 2009, McChesney recommended that capitalism be “dismantled” in the U.S.A. “It is typical communist boilerplate. In the end, there is no real answer but to remove brick by brick the capitalist system itself, rebuilding the entire society on socialist principles. This is something that the great majority of the population will undoubtedly learn in the course of their struggles for a more equal, more humane, more collective, and more sustainable world. In the meantime, it is time to begin to organize a revolt against the ruling class–imposed ceiling on civilian government spending and social welfare in U.S. society.”( A New New Deal under Obama? :: Monthly Review)
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6. Phil Kerpen, of the conservative think tank, Americans for Prosperity, blasted the FCC for being in bed with Free Press: ‘AFP was reacting to an email sent out under FCC Spokeswoman Jen Howard’s name by Free Press discussing FCC’s intent to advance net neutrality regulations. Free Press is a well-known advocate of government intervention in the Internet and Howard’s attempt to have one foot in and one foot out of government at the same time is outrageous.

“Free Press was founded by left-wing extremists who want to destroy private ownership of the media and the Internet. It was bad enough that the Federal Communications Commission hired Free Press’s former spokesperson, Jen Howard. Now we see that she is still apparently working for Free Press,” said AFP Policy Director Phil Kerpen. “Now that Howard is running the press office for FCC Chairman Julius Genachowski it is shocking that she would still be a soldier for a left-wing advocacy group.”
Free Press is the brainchild of Robert McChesney who wrote a column last year advising President Obama: “In the end, there is no real answer but to remove brick-by-brick the capitalist system itself, rebuilding the entire society on socialist principles.”
“The FCC has put on a false front that it is honestly interested in the public’s feedback on its efforts to regulate the Internet,” said Kerpen. “Today’s revelation that it is sharing employees with a group that is dedicated to destroying our free market system is unacceptable.” ‘ FCC Official Spokeswoman Still Working for ‘Free Press’ – Common American Journal


6. Robert McChesney, former editor of Monthly Review, a leading Marxist publication, has dangerously close ties to the Obama administration, … McChesney created the “media reform” organization Free Press, and served on the board of Norman Solomon‘s Institute for Public Accuracy. He remains on the board of Monthly Review, which has a half-century history of supporting Communist movements and regimes.Echoing President Obama’s media diversity czar Mark Lloyd, McChesney supports Venezuela’s Marxist strongman Hugo Chavez and that country’s crackdown on the media. He even argued that owners of an opposition TV station that had been critical of Chavez should be arrested for treason.

7. “What the hard core reformistas really want, it seems, is not diversity or an open debate but a media that promotes their own vision of society and the world.” That’s exactly right and, more specifically, as I argued in my 2005 Media Myths book, the media reformistas want to impose this control by taking the fantasy that “the public owns the [broadcast] airwaves” and extending it to ALL media platforms and outlets. In other words, McChesney and the Free Press want an UnFree Press. To cast things in neo-Marxist terms that they could appreciate, they want to take control of the information means of production. And it begins, McChesney argues, by all of us having to give up this “sort of religious attachment to the idea of a ‘free-press’” from which we all suffer. Free Press, Robert McChesney & the “Struggle” for Media
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1. "STANFORD, Calif.--President Obama is planning to hand the U.S. Commerce Department authority over a forthcoming cybersecurity effort to create an Internet ID for Americans, a White House official said here today.

2. "the absolute perfect spot in the U.S. government" to centralize efforts toward creating an "identity ecosystem" for the Internet, White House Cybersecurity Coordinator Howard Schmidt said

3. ... privacy and civil-liberties groups that have raised concerns in the past over the dual roles of police and intelligence agencies.

4. The Obama administration is currently drafting what it's calling the National Strategy for Trusted Identities in Cyberspace,...

5. "We are not talking about a national ID card," Locke said at the Stanford event. "We are not talking about a government-controlled system.

6. ...reducing and perhaps even eliminating the need to memorize a dozen passwords, through creation and use of more trusted digital identities."

7. Details about the "trusted identity" project are remarkably scarce.

8. ...anonymity and pseudonymity will remain possible on the Internet..."
Obama Eyeing Internet ID for Americans - Tech Talk - CBS News


Ya' know, it this was anybody else but Obama...I might not trust 'em...

But, it's Barak...so I know everything will be on the up and up!
This is last years story. But it appears that legislation in the pipeline could wreck the plan.

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The government has committed multi-millions to helping the private sector build an identity layer for the Internet. But one analyst says either the Stop Online Piracy Act (SOPA) and the Protect IP Act (PIPA) could result in one government action rendering another moot and bungling the promise of secure IDs
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SOPA and PIPA have brought howls of protest, rumors of Internet blackouts and now has the potential to alter the identity and access management landscape.

“There are interdependencies of services that are not immediately obvious and identity is one of those services,” says Glazer. “It’s hard to black out part of a domain and think it will not have consequences in other areas.”

Glazer argues that the protocol layer of connections that define the relationships between sites that provide user identities (called an identity provider or IDP) and sites that rely on those identities to validate users (called relying parties or RPs) is in jeopardy under SOPA and PIPA.

He says sites such as universities, multiple-service ISPs and credential providers hit with a SOPA DNS lockout would not be able to share identity information and therefore would not be able to authenticate users.

He gives the example of a university professor who logs into her network and uses that credential, via identity federation protocols, to authenticate to an online document service. In that model, the university domain and the document service domain must communicate. If either side is invisible within DNS the professor is locked out of her service.

“If you have credentials and user attributes you can’t gather from a domain, all the down stream RPs fail, and that breaks the federation,” said Glazer.

Users would be locked out or left registering a username and password with each individual site they visit on the Web.

“That is opposite of what NSTIC is trying to do,” says Glazer, who blogged about the issues on the Gartner blog network.

NSTIC is the nearly year-old National Strategy for Trusted Identities in Cyberspace, which just received $16.5 million in funding in the 2012 federal budget.

NSTIC, introduced in April last year, outlines the parameters for an “identity ecosystem” to be built and managed by the private sector. For example, Google, PayPal, Symantec and Equifax are already certified ID credential providers.

The program, now under the control of the Commerce Department, is not about a national ID card, but about an infrastructure to help stimulate and secure online interactions and transactions.
SOPA lining up to poison identity federations, expert says | ZDNet
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1. "STANFORD, Calif.--President Obama is planning to hand the U.S. Commerce Department authority over a forthcoming cybersecurity effort to create an Internet ID for Americans, a White House official said here today.

2. "the absolute perfect spot in the U.S. government" to centralize efforts toward creating an "identity ecosystem" for the Internet, White House Cybersecurity Coordinator Howard Schmidt said

3. ... privacy and civil-liberties groups that have raised concerns in the past over the dual roles of police and intelligence agencies.

4. The Obama administration is currently drafting what it's calling the National Strategy for Trusted Identities in Cyberspace,...

5. "We are not talking about a national ID card," Locke said at the Stanford event. "We are not talking about a government-controlled system.

6. ...reducing and perhaps even eliminating the need to memorize a dozen passwords, through creation and use of more trusted digital identities."

7. Details about the "trusted identity" project are remarkably scarce.

8. ...anonymity and pseudonymity will remain possible on the Internet..."
Obama Eyeing Internet ID for Americans - Tech Talk - CBS News
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Ya' know, it this was anybody else but Obama...I might not trust 'em...

But, it's Barak...so I know everything will be on the up and up!
as long as it keeps me safe from terrorism and right wing extremist Im all for it
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1. "STANFORD, Calif.--President Obama is planning to hand the U.S. Commerce Department authority over a forthcoming cybersecurity effort to create an Internet ID for Americans, a White House official said here today.

2. "the absolute perfect spot in the U.S. government" to centralize efforts toward creating an "identity ecosystem" for the Internet, White House Cybersecurity Coordinator Howard Schmidt said

3. ... privacy and civil-liberties groups that have raised concerns in the past over the dual roles of police and intelligence agencies.

4. The Obama administration is currently drafting what it's calling the National Strategy for Trusted Identities in Cyberspace,...

5. "We are not talking about a national ID card," Locke said at the Stanford event. "We are not talking about a government-controlled system.

6. ...reducing and perhaps even eliminating the need to memorize a dozen passwords, through creation and use of more trusted digital identities."

7. Details about the "trusted identity" project are remarkably scarce.

8. ...anonymity and pseudonymity will remain possible on the Internet..."
Obama Eyeing Internet ID for Americans - Tech Talk - CBS News
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Ya' know, it this was anybody else but Obama...I might not trust 'em...

But, it's Barak...so I know everything will be on the up and up!
as long as it keeps me safe from terrorism and right wing extremist Im all for it
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1. "STANFORD, Calif.--President Obama is planning to hand the U.S. Commerce Department authority over a forthcoming cybersecurity effort to create an Internet ID for Americans, a White House official said here today.

2. "the absolute perfect spot in the U.S. government" to centralize efforts toward creating an "identity ecosystem" for the Internet, White House Cybersecurity Coordinator Howard Schmidt said

3. ... privacy and civil-liberties groups that have raised concerns in the past over the dual roles of police and intelligence agencies.

4. The Obama administration is currently drafting what it's calling the National Strategy for Trusted Identities in Cyberspace,...

5. "We are not talking about a national ID card," Locke said at the Stanford event. "We are not talking about a government-controlled system.

6. ...reducing and perhaps even eliminating the need to memorize a dozen passwords, through creation and use of more trusted digital identities."

7. Details about the "trusted identity" project are remarkably scarce.

8. ...anonymity and pseudonymity will remain possible on the Internet..."
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Ya' know, it this was anybody else but Obama...I might not trust 'em...

But, it's Barak...so I know everything will be on the up and up!
as long as it keeps me safe from terrorism and right wing extremist Im all for it
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I am not intimidated by this idea. But, shouldn't this be a world wide issue and not just American? If this isn't about stopping illegal immigration or violating our individual civil rights, well, OK. But what is the point? Preventing internet fraud, ID theft and all, that is fine. But if some guy in Russia has stolen/copied/cloned digitally my fingerprints or retinal patterns or what ever techno crap they do , how is the US government going to stop that? It’s like the arms race, one measure can be almost always be countered. So, what is Obama realy trying to do here?
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1. "STANFORD, Calif.--President Obama is planning to hand the U.S. Commerce Department authority over a forthcoming cybersecurity effort to create an Internet ID for Americans, a White House official said here today.

2. "the absolute perfect spot in the U.S. government" to centralize efforts toward creating an "identity ecosystem" for the Internet, White House Cybersecurity Coordinator Howard Schmidt said

3. ... privacy and civil-liberties groups that have raised concerns in the past over the dual roles of police and intelligence agencies.

4. The Obama administration is currently drafting what it's calling the National Strategy for Trusted Identities in Cyberspace,...

5. "We are not talking about a national ID card," Locke said at the Stanford event. "We are not talking about a government-controlled system.

6. ...reducing and perhaps even eliminating the need to memorize a dozen passwords, through creation and use of more trusted digital identities."

7. Details about the "trusted identity" project are remarkably scarce.

8. ...anonymity and pseudonymity will remain possible on the Internet..."
Obama Eyeing Internet ID for Americans - Tech Talk - CBS News


Ya' know, it this was anybody else but Obama...I might not trust 'em...

But, it's Barak...so I know everything will be on the up and up!


its ironic that the same people who want legal voters to not get to vote because they don't have ID are in favor of identity theft being easy.


The system is VOLUNTARY for crissakes. Go put on your aluminum hat.

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I am not intimidated by this idea. But, shouldn't this be a world wide issue and not just American? If this isn't about stopping illegal immigration or violating our individual civil rights, well, OK. But what is the point? Preventing internet fraud, ID theft and all, that is fine. But if some guy in Russia has stolen/copied/cloned digitally my fingerprints or retinal patterns or what ever techno crap they do , how is the US government going to stop that? It’s like the arms race, one measure can be almost always be countered. So, what is Obama realy trying to do here?
"So, what is Obama realy trying to do here?"

Your post gets right to the heart of the issue.

It is interesting to note, as well, that during the Chris Hayes Show, "UP," this weekend, it was pointed out that those nations with the least piracy protections have the least piracy....
....curious.

So, what is government really trying to do here?
Some of our less astute -or more trusting- friends seem not able to connect dots.
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I am not intimidated by this idea. But, shouldn't this be a world wide issue and not just American? If this isn't about stopping illegal immigration or violating our individual civil rights, well, OK. But what is the point? Preventing internet fraud, ID theft and all, that is fine. But if some guy in Russia has stolen/copied/cloned digitally my fingerprints or retinal patterns or what ever techno crap they do , how is the US government going to stop that? It’s like the arms race, one measure can be almost always be countered. So, what is Obama realy trying to do here?
"So, what is Obama realy trying to do here?"

Your post gets right to the heart of the issue.

It is interesting to note, as well, that during the Chris Hayes Show, "UP," this weekend, it was pointed out that those nations with the least piracy protections have the least piracy....
....curious.
It was pointed out by whom and based on what factual evidence? In addition, who the **** cares?


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