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View Poll Results: Do you oversupervise/ overprotect your kids?? | |
I give my kids all the freedom in the world.. They do whatever they want.
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My kids have a lot of freedom, but they sometimes have to check with me on certain things.
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My kids are overall in charge of their own lives, and I am always here for guidance.
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My kids have to check in frequently. There are no secrets kept from my family.
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If I am not with my kids, or know a lot about who they are with, well, they will not partake at all.
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11-21-2009, 09:02 PM
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Rep Power: 10 | | Over-parenting our youth.. an ethical injustice to our kiddos Full 5 page article: Can These Parents Be Saved: The Growing Backlash Against Over-Parenting - TIME Quote: The insanity crept up on us slowly; we just wanted what was best for our kids. We bought macrobiotic cupcakes and hypoallergenic socks, hired tutors to correct a 5-year-old's "pencil-holding deficiency," hooked up broadband connections in the treehouse but took down the swing set after the second skinned knee. We hovered over every school, playground and practice field — "helicopter parents," teachers christened us, a phenomenon that spread to parents of all ages, races and regions. Stores began marketing stove-knob covers and "Kinderkords" (also known as leashes; they allow "three full feet of freedom for both you and your child") and Baby Kneepads (as if babies don't come prepadded). The mayor of a Connecticut town agreed to chop down three hickory trees on one block after a woman worried that a stray nut might drop into her new swimming pool, where her nut-allergic grandson occasionally swam. A Texas school required parents wanting to help with the second-grade holiday party to have a background check first. Schools auctioned off the right to cut the carpool line and drop a child directly in front of the building — a spot that in other settings is known as handicapped parking.
We were so obsessed with our kids' success that parenting turned into a form of product development. Parents demanded that nursery schools offer Mandarin, since it's never too soon to prepare for the competition of a global economy. High school teachers received irate text messages from parents protesting an exam grade before class was even over; college deans described freshmen as "crispies," who arrived at college already burned out, and "teacups," who seemed ready to break at the tiniest stress. (See pictures of the college dorm's evolution.)
This is what parenting had come to look like at the dawn of the 21st century — just one more extravagance, the Bubble Wrap waiting to burst.
All great rebellions are born of private acts of civil disobedience that inspire rebel bands to plot together. And so there is now a new revolution under way, one aimed at rolling back the almost comical overprotectiveness and overinvestment of moms and dads. The insurgency goes by many names — slow parenting, simplicity parenting, free-range parenting — but the message is the same: Less is more; hovering is dangerous; failure is fruitful. You really want your children to succeed? Learn when to leave them alone. When you lighten up, they'll fly higher. We're often the ones who hold them down. Related Photos The Evolution of the College Dorm Specials America's 10 Best College Presidents Stories More Related
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11-21-2009, 09:08 PM
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Rep Power: 132 | | | My wife hovers over our son like a preditor drone at a Pakistani wedding, I on the other hand am more laissez fair, I am so lazy the boy thinks I am fair.
Last time I saw him he was in a life and death struggle with our doberman.
I am betting on the boy, because I love him.
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11-21-2009, 09:15 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted by JW Frogen My wife hovers over our son like a preditor drone at a Pakistani wedding, I on the other hand am more laissez fair, I am so lazy the boy thinks I am fair.
Last time I saw him he was in a life and death struggle with our doberman.
I am betting on the boy, because I love him. LOL!! I have family that also acts like their kids will break if they arent constantly directing them. Ugh..
I am a little more like you, always available for my kid- even when he doesn't want me to be, lol.. I can tell when something is not right. I am kinda like the doberman, when it comes to it. Not with my kid, of course, lol, but with those who mess with him, who are bigger and badder.
You mess wit my kid, you messin wit me..
__________________ Questions actually asked of witnesses: The youngest son, the twenty-year old, how old is he?"How far apart were the vehicles at the time of the collision?" Q: "You say the stairs went down to the basement?" A: "Yes."
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11-21-2009, 09:29 PM
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Rep Power: 346 | | | I read this article earlier today and absolutely agree. Parents have turned into hovering, annoying, interfering worry-warts with their kids. God forbid little Johnny suffer the consequences of forgetting his homework or uniform . . . mom or dad to the rescue, bringing them their goods! God forbid kids learn that failing to turn in assignments on time or studying for tests results in consequences like failing and detentions. . . . mom or dad to the rescue with a conference demanding that their kid can't suffer these consequences! Oh puleeezze.
My youngest - almost 13 - was friends with the kid a few doors down since they were little. A few years ago my kid decided that she didn't want to be friends with this kid cause she really didn't like this kid. So why was I on the phone with the school guidance counselor discussing this? Because the dropped friend whined about it and the 'feel good counselor' had the kids get together in the office at school to 'talk about it' and my kid called me during this 'discussion'. wtf?? I told the counselor that if my kid ever gets called down by another kid because they had a fight or a falling out or whatever, that under no circumstances was my kid allowed to partake in said discussion. For crying out loud the adults need to butt the hell out and let these kids learn how to solve their own problems. Talk to your kids, offer them advice then butt out. I told the kid's mom the same thing when she called to 'discuss the situation'. She was puzzled at my attitude as she gave me the impression that we should get together and figure this out. Give me a break.
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11-21-2009, 09:46 PM
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Rep Power: 62 | | | I tried to treat my kids with the attitude my father had. Let them teeter on the brink of self-destruction, grab their britches and pull them back. Very calm lecture followed by a hug. But each time the pesky spouse got in the way.
So I learned to boil it down to a sermon of sorts: "You're very lucky to have been born with the ability to tell right from wrong- some folks aren't. The challenge in life comes in choosing right over wrong".
I hope that shit sinks in.
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11-21-2009, 09:53 PM
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Rep Power: 161 | | | Two problems in America about parenting, under and over parenting ... we are a country of extremes now, some don't do enough, others do too much ... no one takes the middle ground anymore. | 
11-21-2009, 10:35 PM
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Rep Power: 102 | | | The article is just another reason to remain child-free. Who needs a bunch of do-gooders telling you how to raise your own kids? | 
11-22-2009, 12:38 AM
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Quote: Originally Posted by Zander The article is just another reason to remain child-free. Who needs a bunch of do-gooders telling you how to raise your own kids? And the strangest thing is that most of the do-gooders who rush in to tell you how to parent "properly" don't actually have any children of their own.
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11-22-2009, 01:01 AM
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Rep Power: 278 | | | As a result of the generation spawned of the helicopter parents, we have an entire generation whose EQs are seriously retarded.
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11-22-2009, 05:30 AM
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Rep Power: 84 | | | What I find ironic is that whenever this subject comes up pretty much all the responses are about how helicopter parents are bad, but if anyone ever suggests lowering the age we call people adults or using some form of testing to decide when 1 should be considered an adult no 1 seems in favor of it. It feels to me like we live in a helicopter society.
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Quote: Originally Posted by Amanda What I find ironic is that whenever this subject comes up pretty much all the responses are about how helicopter parents are bad, but if anyone ever suggests lowering the age we call people adults or using some form of testing to decide when 1 should be considered an adult no 1 seems in favor of it. It feels to me like we live in a helicopter society. Yes, and there is a significant portion of the population who wants more nannying from the government. Go figure.
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Quote: Originally Posted by Amanda What I find ironic is that whenever this subject comes up pretty much all the responses are about how helicopter parents are bad, but if anyone ever suggests lowering the age we call people adults or using some form of testing to decide when 1 should be considered an adult no 1 seems in favor of it. It feels to me like we live in a helicopter society. Yes, and there is a significant portion of the population who wants more nannying from the government. Go figure. I read the book a while back and it gave a really clear picture about why we're where we're at on some of these issues. I recommend it, it was a good read.
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11-22-2009, 06:28 AM
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Rep Power: 233 | | | I thought it interesting that the new healthcare bill is supposed to cover dependent children UNTIL THE AGE OF 27!!!! Good Lord!
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Rep Power: 161 | | | I am not for "lowering the age of adulthood" in this country ... mostly because there are too many factors involved, however ... I am for neither helicopter nor absentee parents. Let kids be kids and grow up ... but make sure you offer them the best advice you can and explain why they get in trouble ... it's pretty simple ... yet no one wants to. Either they want the government to babysit or they baby the kids. | 
11-22-2009, 08:40 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted by Amanda What I find ironic is that whenever this subject comes up pretty much all the responses are about how helicopter parents are bad, but if anyone ever suggests lowering the age we call people adults or using some form of testing to decide when 1 should be considered an adult no 1 seems in favor of it. It feels to me like we live in a helicopter society.
That is an excellent point. See, my sister was writing her congressmen at the ripe young age of like 11 or 12, informing them of the fact that she has practiced driving on private roads, and is fully knowledgeable about the driver's handbook, rules of the road. She is in her mid-thirties now, and still complains that she had to wait until she was 15, just to drive with an adult.
I personally think that if a kid can hold it, and pull the trigger, and maybe pass a couple of general exams, then they should have the same rights to gun ownership/ possession as an adult.
The hilarious thing is, my sister, a perpertual helicopter parent to her own children, totally disagrees with this!!!
WTF is right!!
__________________ Questions actually asked of witnesses: The youngest son, the twenty-year old, how old is he?"How far apart were the vehicles at the time of the collision?" Q: "You say the stairs went down to the basement?" A: "Yes."
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