SAME SEX MARRIAGE and ABORTION

Many Conservatives, and even some Liberals, claim that same sex marriage and abortion are "sins" and the "Bible says it is wrong".

I ask any of you to please indicate the passage in the Bible where claims such as these are made? Show me one verse. Use whatever Bible you chose but where does it state this?

Im not at all surprised that no one can point to a Biblical passage in support of their homophobic and anti-free choice beliefs.

Man, this subject is really getting worn out lately.... ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ It certainly is a queer issue isn't it?

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I wonder about people who take their marching orders from an ancient book written by simple, primitive people.

It's a good thing everyone is on board about homosexual couples adopting children that haven't been aborted, isn't it?

You would have to be an imbecile not to see that the "Law" states very clearly that homosexuality is a sin and that killing a human being is also a sin or that sin leads to death and is an affront to God.

You've read every passage that I have read condemning homosexuality as a sin so I am not going to take the time to point out any of the verses for you because I'm not going to argue that Same Sex Marriage or abortion is "wrong" because then you are just playing games with the meanings of words like "wrong" and abortion and phrases like "same sex marriage".

If sin is wrong then homosexuality is wrong. If killing a human being is wrong, then abortion is wrong. If coveting my neighbor's wife is wrong then checking out the rear end of the young woman in too short shorts is wrong too.

The debate that I would prefer to have is whether or not people who participate in such sins are condemned to Hell or is there yet hope for them as sinners? Does the fact that I am not a homosexual nor have I supported abortion mean that I am any better than the sinner who has? Must they/we repent and be "sin free" at the time of death?

Immie

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I agree, we need some new issues

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Let me know where the Bible says that mammals can't have feathers or squares cant be circles and ill answer your question. Till then...

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My warfare is, and has been for years, to get the people to understand that if they do not take care of themselves they will not be taken care of; that if we do not lay the foundation to feed and clothe and shelter ourselves we shall perish with hunger and with cold; we might also suffer in the summer season from the direct rays of the sun upon our naked and unprotected bodies - Brigham Young

You cannot force spiritual things. Such words as compel, coerce, constrain, pressure, demand, do not describe our privileges with the Spirit. You can no more force the Spirit to respond than you can force a bean to sprout, or an egg to hatch before its time. You can create a climate to foster growth, nourish, and protect; but you cannot force or compel: you must await the growth. - Boyd K Packer

Immanuel,

My son, it is indeed sad that you must resort to name-calling rather than defend your position. I asked a simple question regarding the location of a few verses in the Bible in support of the almost rabid approach taken by Conservatives.

Is that the best you can do my child ?

Simple primitive people? Are you suggesting that people in the times of antiquity did not have the same 'IQ' level as modern man? What idiocy. Of course ancient men were simply STUPID.....they were not capable of any great intellectual achievements. There where no GREAT MINDS of records that MODERN man quotes and uses on a daily basis, no great Archetypal structures of antiquity that modern man is still incapable of explaining their construction. There is not even a MODERN calender used to place the birth record of one such STUPID man of antiquity on display.....BY THE WAY, what is today's date.........IN THE YEAR OF OUR LORD?

All ancient men were examples of isolated inbreeding with the final product being.......NEANDERTHAL MAN. Very observant.......and a very good method to use and place that SUPERIOR EDUCATION into productive use and showcase. Can you spell.......

D U M B
D O W N E D
A R R O G A N T
P O M P O U S
I N D O C T R I N A T E D

Lately? It's been worn out since before I came to USMB.

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OK..... (Genesis 19:4-5, 13, Lev. 18:22, 20:13, Deut. 23:17-18, Judges 19:22-24, 1 Kings 14:24, 15:12, 2 Kings 23:7, Romans 1:26-27, 1 Cor. 6:9-11, 1 Tim. 1:9-11, Jude 6-7)

Just for your enlightenment and edification.

In the BEGINNING God created us male and female -- Genesis 1:26-27. After creating man by himself God said it was not good for man to be alone, so God created wo(man). -- Gen. 2:18. Men leave their parents to marry WIVES (females) -- Genesis 2:22-24. No provisions were ever directed by God for men marrying men or women marrying women.

Marriage is for ONE MALE, ONE FEMALE as declared by the Christ -- Matthew 19:4-5.

All SEX outside marriage is wrong and considered a sin by God. Not only is homosexuality condemned but all acts of sexual immorality are condemned -- Gal. 5:19-21. Homosexuality is against NATURE...the way God designed nature to work -- Romans 1:26-27. No one making practice of an immoral sexual sin can inherent the kingdom of God -- 1 Cor. 6:9-10.

TRUTH does not evolve. Societies may evolve. But, what was true in the 1st century is just as true in the 21st century. Truth is not subjective to opinion, truth is the same for YOU and I...because it is based upon evidence that goes beyond any intellectually honest persons ability to doubt otherwise.

you say he is resorting to name calling, and yet you refer to him as "my son" and "my child". Don't you think that insinuation is also name calling and unnecessarily hierarchical? Don't enter a convo and complain about name calling if you yourself can't come into it as an equal.

Ralphy,

The passages you quote do NOT, repeat DO NOT, refer to same sex MARRIAGE or ABORTION !

Again, post where the Bible says that mammals may not have feathers and circles cannot be squares and then we will talk.

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My warfare is, and has been for years, to get the people to understand that if they do not take care of themselves they will not be taken care of; that if we do not lay the foundation to feed and clothe and shelter ourselves we shall perish with hunger and with cold; we might also suffer in the summer season from the direct rays of the sun upon our naked and unprotected bodies - Brigham Young

You cannot force spiritual things. Such words as compel, coerce, constrain, pressure, demand, do not describe our privileges with the Spirit. You can no more force the Spirit to respond than you can force a bean to sprout, or an egg to hatch before its time. You can create a climate to foster growth, nourish, and protect; but you cannot force or compel: you must await the growth. - Boyd K Packer