Well, again... Islam is founded on the teachings of the Pedophile... Mohammad. So, while this story may have been taken out of context, it certainly doesn't change the fact, that the Muslim culture is a sick and detestable culture.

Hamas is enforcing sharia trying to create a proper Islamic state.

In other words, Jen succeeded in what she was attempting to do. Doesn't matter if the thread was based upon a lie.

Arranged Marriages are not unique to Islam.

Also, for a Religion not even 500 years removed from much of the same behavior that you look down upon Islam for you shouldn't be talking. Last I checked, the Salem Witch Trials, the Inquisition, and many other incidents similar to that weren't conducted by Muslims.

Islam is currently at the point where Christianity use to be. The problem for Islam they have no true one leader to tell them what exactly to do. Should they follow old age traditions? Should they make their own new traditions based on what they were taught? A mix of the two? Things similar to that.

Christianity soon realized that hey, killing people who say the Earth is round and that the Earth revolves around the Sun is a bad idea among other things. Why? Probably figured they should practice what they preach.

What was done in the name of Christ did not represent Christ. Christ told Christians to pick up the cross and follow Him, something many of us FAIL at, myself just about an hour ago in a different thread. Nevertheless, in Christianity, if one follow Christ, none of those accusations you posted would have happened.

Whereas in Islam, the Quran says to follow Muhammad, and what did Muhammad do? Oh, nothing much, just behead 600 to 900 people because they rejected allah.

You ask if Muslims should follow age-old traditions? I hope not. You ask, "should they follow age old traditions?" What is Islam except following Muhammad?

I really do have to ask you the following: You do realize that not every Muslim is a terrorist who wants to convert you or your children to Islam at the threat of death correct? I know several peaceful Muslims in my own life just to begin with.

The Plight of Moderate Muslims
a people without a religion

by Jen Shroder
Muhammad got in my car, grinning from ear to ear, one of the nicest kids we know. Then there is Abbas, the son of an Iranian Shah who gave me an exquisite tapestry case just because he is generous. I smile whenever I think of Sharif and how we would almost fall over laughing as we bantered back and forth. I remember parties at Omar’s in Ashland and I’m always happy to see my Muslim neighbors.

I have liked every Muslim I have ever met.

America is embracing a religion that is said to promote peace as many moderate Muslims happily practice it. But as Yale professor and military historian Mary Habeck points out, this "peace" is only the first phase of Islam. The "method of Muhammad" largely known by Middle East Islamists is to spread Islam peacefully at first but always including covert groups of "true followers" who will use violence against those who will not accept. This method is verified in Islam’s holy book, the Sira, and the pattern has been repeated throughout history.

When scholars point at the Koran and the terrorist verses recited over acts of violence and beheadings, Muslims claim those verses are out of context, and they feel out of context to those who have accepted Islam’s first phase. But "peace" is not the last phase of Islam.

Muhammad, reverenced as Jesus Christ is to Christians, is the role model. Muslims believe if they want to experience his success, they must follow his footsteps exactly, and Muhammad slaughtered 600 to 900 Jews that rejected his "peaceful" Islam, then sold their wives and children into slavery as he continued to quote Allah, adding terrorism, beheadings and carnage.

Bin Laden believes he is following Muhammad’s footsteps. He did not hijack a religion, he just took it seriously.

The answer is not to claim moderate Muslim beliefs are true Islam. The answer is not to ask our children to get on their hands and knees and pray to Allah in public school, to "become Muslim," fast for Ramadan, and "assume you are a Muslim soldier" as our textbooks direct. Once the governing majority is Muslim, "true Islam" and the totalitarian oppressive Sharia laws come into effect. Our freedoms will be slowly choked from us as they are being choked from France today.

President Bush probably doubts we can "win the war on terror" because that would require the eradication of Islam completely, something America would never endeavor. Religious freedom is fundamental to us, it is part of what makes us great. We will not outlaw Islam, we will not hunt down and kill every Muslim in an effort to win the Jihad pronounced by sheiks. President Bush is absolutely right, we can’t "win" the war, we can only fight to maintain our stature and freedom while we hunt down a never-ending supply of Islamic terrorists.

Thus we have already "won" every day we stand as a shining light, (though dimming if our nation continues to oppose God).

But the plight of the moderate Muslim is grave. As America slowly admits the enemy is true Islam, every effort must be made to embrace the moderate Muslim, not persecute them. The answer is not to blind our eyes and try to convince ourselves that moderate Muslims represent true Islam. They don’t. Islam is defined by its holy books, and the holy books proclaim death to all who oppose it, even moderate Muslims. The answer is to live in reality, recognize the violence of true Islam as it rears its head, and ask moderate Muslims to reconsider. True Islam pronounces moderate Muslims as apostate, they are the "near enemies" in the Sira and without true conversion, they will be slaughtered right along with Christians and Jews. American Muslims need to take a hard look at what their Koran, in its entirety and true context, demands. They can no more denounce the method of Muhammad than Christians can denounce the sacrifice and love of God. I know, because as I battle with public educators for my children’s religious freedom, I get angry, and God continually rebukes me for my anger. He reminds me of the sacrifice that Jesus Christ made for them as well, and I am constantly humbled.

Muhammad slaughtered unbelievers. Jesus Christ gave Himself to be slaughtered. Muhammad took life, Jesus laid down His own life. I am to love these educators that would ask my sons to practice abominations to God, but I am not to give my sons over to them. We are to LOVE American Muslims, but we ought not give over our nation. We need to admit what true Islam is... or we can invest in prayer carpets, head baskets and burkas.

So as America wakes up to our enemy’s identity, pray for protection of moderate Muslims. They bought a belief without substance, a way of life without a Savior. Embrace them, love them and share His holy light with them.

But at the same time, do not allow public schools to lead your sons and daughters to their plight.

only a stupid twat would use her own work to justify her own work.

only a stupid twat would use her own work to justify her own work.

And only a powermongering WEAK man would neg rep twice in one week for opinion.

That's an OPINION piece, del, there is nothing wrong with posting what I've already written when repeatedly asked the same question.

OPINIONS don't need justification, they are OPINIONS.

Neg repping because someone has never met a mean Muslim is just looking for an excuse to neg rep.

And is cowardly.

I thought you said you would be open about that.

...and.. who really gives a shit about the dim opinions of JenT anyway?