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Now that the dust has settled, Shogun made an interesting point and I'm curious to know how many here think that pedophilia among Catholic priests and the brutality of nuns in Catholic schools is indicative of a tendency to promote violence in the Bible?
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Which article are you quoting? The link that I posted leads to this in the Detroit Free Press.

A former high school wrestling coach who is Christian filed a lawsuit Monday against Dearborn Public Schools and a high school principal who is Muslim, saying he was terminated because of his association with an assistant who had helped convert a Muslim student to Christianity.
the OP. you should read them once in awhile.
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you do realize that the OP says pretty much the exact same thing as your quote, right?

oh, and your opinion as to the legitimacy of the source of the OP means two things to me- see if you can guess what they are.
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Old 08-03-2009, 04:15 PM
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The whole problem I have with this, is this an actual Muslim school or is it just that their population is primarily Muslim, that makes a huge difference in this particular matter.
It's a public school. We've only heard the coaches side of the story though, who knows why he was really fired?

The Muslim dude has a screw loose though if he thinks he can fire someone because of his religious beliefs and conversion rate.
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the OP. you should read them once in awhile.
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you do realize that the OP says pretty much the exact same thing as your quote, right?

oh, and your opinion as to the legitimacy of the source of the OP means two things to me- see if you can guess what they are.
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No it doesn't. Too bad you didn't bother to read both articles before saying that.
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you do realize that the OP says pretty much the exact same thing as your quote, right?

oh, and your opinion as to the legitimacy of the source of the OP means two things to me- see if you can guess what they are.
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No it doesn't. Too bad you didn't bother to read both articles before saying that.
from the OP-"Marszalek’s contract was not renewed because of his association with a Christian volunteer coach, Trey Han****, who the principal accused of converting a Muslim student to Christianity during a summer camp not connected with the school or Coach Marszalek"

Lawsuit Filed Against Dearborn Schools and Muslim Principal Over Firing of Legendary Christian Wrestling Coach*|*Catholic Exchange

from DFP-"A former high school wrestling coach who is Christian filed a lawsuit Monday against Dearborn Public Schools and a high school principal who is Muslim, saying he was terminated because of his association with an assistant who had helped convert a Muslim student to Christianity."

Former coach sues Dearborn schools | Freep.com | Detroit Free Press

feel free to tell me all about the vast differences in the two.
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The whole problem I have with this, is this an actual Muslim school or is it just that their population is primarily Muslim, that makes a huge difference in this particular matter.
I agree, and it appears that this was a public school and a teacher with tenure. The superintendent has stated that religion didn't play a role in the firing. Guess we'll see.

It appears that the student who converted was not yet a student at the high school and that he was attending a private wrestling camp, according to the lawsuit.

Michigan Messenger » Fired wrestling coach files suit against Dearborn Fordson

This should be interesting to see how it unfolds. I don't think the school can legally comment on a pending case though.
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you do realize that the OP says pretty much the exact same thing as your quote, right?

oh, and your opinion as to the legitimacy of the source of the OP means two things to me- see if you can guess what they are.
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No it doesn't. Too bad you didn't bother to read both articles before saying that.
from the OP-"Marszalek’s contract was not renewed because of his association with a Christian volunteer coach, Trey Han****, who the principal accused of converting a Muslim student to Christianity during a summer camp not connected with the school or Coach Marszalek"

Lawsuit Filed Against Dearborn Schools and Muslim Principal Over Firing of Legendary Christian Wrestling Coach*|*Catholic Exchange

from DFP-"A former high school wrestling coach who is Christian filed a lawsuit Monday against Dearborn Public Schools and a high school principal who is Muslim, saying he was terminated because of his association with an assistant who had helped convert a Muslim student to Christianity."

Former coach sues Dearborn schools | Freep.com | Detroit Free Press

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Mine does not give information as to whether the assistant was or was not employed by the school system or what the coach's involvement with the alleged conversion is supposed to have been.

Mine does not mention the incident where the principal is alleged to have punched the student.


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Quote: Originally Posted by KittenKoder Guests cannot see images in the messages. Please register to forum by clicking here to see images.
The whole problem I have with this, is this an actual Muslim school or is it just that their population is primarily Muslim, that makes a huge difference in this particular matter.
I agree, and it appears that this was a public school and a teacher with tenure. The superintendent has stated that religion didn't play a role in the firing. Guess we'll see.

It appears that the student who converted was not yet a student at the high school and that he was attending a private wrestling camp, according to the lawsuit.

Michigan Messenger » Fired wrestling coach files suit against Dearborn Fordson

This should be interesting to see how it unfolds. I don't think the school can legally comment on a pending case though.
The one somewhat unbiased news report I read stated he wasn't a teacher with tenure but someone used as needed, or at will...something to that effect. His contract was renewable and the school choose not to renew it.
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No it doesn't. Too bad you didn't bother to read both articles before saying that.
from the OP-"Marszalek’s contract was not renewed because of his association with a Christian volunteer coach, Trey Han****, who the principal accused of converting a Muslim student to Christianity during a summer camp not connected with the school or Coach Marszalek"

Lawsuit Filed Against Dearborn Schools and Muslim Principal Over Firing of Legendary Christian Wrestling Coach*|*Catholic Exchange

from DFP-"A former high school wrestling coach who is Christian filed a lawsuit Monday against Dearborn Public Schools and a high school principal who is Muslim, saying he was terminated because of his association with an assistant who had helped convert a Muslim student to Christianity."

Former coach sues Dearborn schools | Freep.com | Detroit Free Press

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Mine does not give information as to whether the assistant was or was not employed by the school system or what the coach's involvement with the alleged conversion is supposed to have been.

Mine does not mention the incident where the principal is alleged to have punched the student.


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Now that the dust has settled, Shogun made an interesting point and I'm curious to know how many here think that pedophilia among Catholic priests and the brutality of nuns in Catholic schools is indicative of a tendency to promote violence in the Bible?
Clearly. After all, I read a few web pages on the subject, making me an expert on Christianity and Christian scripture.
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Quote: Originally Posted by KittenKoder Guests cannot see images in the messages. Please register to forum by clicking here to see images.
The whole problem I have with this, is this an actual Muslim school or is it just that their population is primarily Muslim, that makes a huge difference in this particular matter.
I agree, and it appears that this was a public school and a teacher with tenure. The superintendent has stated that religion didn't play a role in the firing.
My source said this. Does your say he had tenure, etc?
Former coach sues Dearborn schools | Freep.com | Detroit Free Press

David Mustonen, a spokesman for Dearborn Public Schools, said the district had not seen the complaint and would have to review it before making any comment. Marszalek is an at-will employee and not protected under the union contract, so the principal has the right not to extend his contract, Mustonen said. Fadlallah could not be reached for comment.
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Now that the dust has settled, Shogun made an interesting point and I'm curious to know how many here think that pedophilia among Catholic priests and the brutality of nuns in Catholic schools is indicative of a tendency to promote violence in the Bible?
Clearly. After all, I read a few web pages on the subject, making me an expert on Christianity and Christian scripture.
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Here's the link:

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Marszalek, a member of the Michigan Wrestling Association's hall of fame, declined comment Monday.
Dearborn Public Schools also declined to comment. John Artis, who was superintendent until last summer, said Marszalek was an at-will employee who reported to the Fordson principal. He said discrimination on the basis of religion had no role in the dismissal.
"There were a number of things tied into that. ... A tough decision had to be made," Artis said.
Coach Claims He Was Fired Because of His Christianity
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The whole problem I have with this, is this an actual Muslim school or is it just that their population is primarily Muslim, that makes a huge difference in this particular matter.
I agree, and it appears that this was a public school and a teacher with tenure. The superintendent has stated that religion didn't play a role in the firing.
My source said this. Does your say he had tenure, etc?
Former coach sues Dearborn schools | Freep.com | Detroit Free Press

David Mustonen, a spokesman for Dearborn Public Schools, said the district had not seen the complaint and would have to review it before making any comment. Marszalek is an at-will employee and not protected under the union contract, so the principal has the right not to extend his contract, Mustonen said. Fadlallah could not be reached for comment.
No, I hadn't read that last bit. I can't remember which article said he was tenured (I tend to skim through a bunch looking for the common thread), but I'll post it if I can find it.
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The one somewhat unbiased news report I read stated he wasn't a teacher with tenure but someone used as needed, or at will...something to that effect. His contract was renewable and the school choose not to renew it.
I think at-will is a description of the state policies. But I"m not completely certain of whether he had tenure or not. I don't think it matters to the case much, though. If he can show discrimination based on religion, it doesn't really matter whether it's an at-will contract or not.
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