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06-29-2009, 07:31 PM
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Rep Power: 442 | | | Let me say this, JButtemia, it has nothing to do with religion and everything to do with legislating someone else's morals...even a twitty atheist OPINION like your OPINION is still forcing your moralist beliefs on the rest of the country.
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Quote: Originally Posted by eots all laws are legislating someone elses morality Wrong. Some are, but good law only protects an American citizen's civil rights. | 
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__________________ "This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing government, they can exercise their constitutional right of amending it or their revolutionary right to dismember it or overthrow it." -- Abraham Lincoln, 4 April 1861
Remember, remember, the 11th of september The Gunpowder Treason and plot;
I see of no reason why Gunpowder Treason
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Quote: Originally Posted by eots lol....civil rights are someones moral beliefs How so? | 
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Rep Power: 76 | | | in china the accepted morality is different..as are the civil rights..in Americas past the prevailing morality
was different and it was reflected in our civil rights...all rights are based on morality as are the rights of the unborn
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Quote: Originally Posted by Ravi Let me say this, JButtemia, it has nothing to do with religion and everything to do with legislating someone else's morals...even a twitty atheist OPINION like your OPINION is still forcing your moralist beliefs on the rest of the country.
Move to Saudi Arabia.
Quote: Originally Posted by Ravi
Quote: Originally Posted by eots lol....civil rights are someones moral beliefs How so?
You're a fucking idiot. 'Civil rights' are protected for two reasons
1) it is considered to be moral or good to grant and protect them. Slavery? Ended due to moral objections. Women's suffrage? A moral issue regarding sexual equality. 'Gay marriage' a moral issue regarding discrimination and perceived sexual immorality. Child labor laws and child sex laws? Put in place due to moral objections regarding the exploitation of children...
2)social contract that arise to protect the individual and/or see one's morality adhered to | 
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Quote: Originally Posted by JBeukema
Quote: Originally Posted by Ravi Let me say this, JButtemia, it has nothing to do with religion and everything to do with legislating someone else's morals...even a twitty atheist OPINION like your OPINION is still forcing your moralist beliefs on the rest of the country.
Move to Saudi Arabia.
Quote: Originally Posted by Ravi
Quote: Originally Posted by eots lol....civil rights are someones moral beliefs How so?
You're a fucking idiot. 'Civil rights' are protected for two reasons
1) it is considered to be moral or good to grant and protect them. Slavery? Ended due to moral objections. Women's suffrage? A moral issue regarding sexual equality. 'Gay marriage' a moral issue regarding discrimination and perceived sexual immorality. Child labor laws and child sex laws? Put in place due to moral objections regarding the exploitation of children...
2)social contract that arise to protect the individual and/or see one's morality adhered to HOLY FUCKING SHIT! Add morality to the list of words JBitchema doesn't understand.
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Quote: Originally Posted by JBeukema I think Ravi's gotten more stupid as of late She has always been immensely stupid. You guys just agreed with her ignorant positions. Like I said if she had 2 brain cells in her head where ever she lived would be in danger of a massive methane explosion if those 2 brain cells ever collided in her methane filled head.
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Quote: Originally Posted by JBeukema ...there is another group that has entered the scene that, while smaller than the others, poses a huge danger to both of the aforementioned. These are those pro-life atheists and other non-religious persons who object to the slaughter of the unborn. Still probably a lot smaller than the already entrenched group of religious and faithful that are pro-choice because they don't believe in forcing others to abide by their personal moral code of conduct.
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concern with the distinction between good and evil or right and wrong; right or good conduct
moral - concerned with principles of right and wrong or conforming to standards of behavior and character based on those principles; "moral sense"; "a ...
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Quote: Originally Posted by eots morality
concern with the distinction between good and evil or right and wrong; right or good conduct
moral - concerned with principles of right and wrong or conforming to standards of behavior and character based on those principles; "moral sense"; "a ...
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Now you're going to give me the line about murder and theft being outlawed because they are immoral.
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Quote: Originally Posted by manifold
Quote: Originally Posted by eots morality
concern with the distinction between good and evil or right and wrong; right or good conduct
moral - concerned with principles of right and wrong or conforming to standards of behavior and character based on those principles; "moral sense"; "a ...
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Now you're going to give me the line about murder and theft being outlawed because they are immoral.  to the prevaling .. some ...they are ...for others the law has to force this morality upon them
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Quote: Originally Posted by Anguille
Quote: Originally Posted by Ravi "anti-lifer" is a strawman. Not worth reading the rest of your silly rant. Anti-choicers are anti-lifers.
Pro choice is pro life.
And I suppose killing a baby is giving it life?
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