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This is a discussion on 'Abortion' and religious strawmen within the Religion and Ethics forums, part of the US Discussion category; Let me say this, JButtemia, it has nothing to do with religion and everything to do with legislating someone else's morals...even a twitty atheist OPINION ...


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Old 06-29-2009, 07:31 PM
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Let me say this, JButtemia, it has nothing to do with religion and everything to do with legislating someone else's morals...even a twitty atheist OPINION like your OPINION is still forcing your moralist beliefs on the rest of the country.

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all laws are legislating someone elses morality and your opinion does not represent...the rest of the country
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all laws are legislating someone elses morality
Wrong. Some are, but good law only protects an American citizen's civil rights.
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lol....civil rights are someones moral beliefs
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lol....civil rights are someones moral beliefs
How so?
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Old 06-29-2009, 08:00 PM
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in china the accepted morality is different..as are the civil rights..in Americas past the prevailing morality
was different and it was reflected in our civil rights...all rights are based on morality as are the rights of the unborn
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Let me say this, JButtemia, it has nothing to do with religion and everything to do with legislating someone else's morals...even a twitty atheist OPINION like your OPINION is still forcing your moralist beliefs on the rest of the country.

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lol....civil rights are someones moral beliefs
How so?

You're a fucking idiot. 'Civil rights' are protected for two reasons

1) it is considered to be moral or good to grant and protect them. Slavery? Ended due to moral objections. Women's suffrage? A moral issue regarding sexual equality. 'Gay marriage' a moral issue regarding discrimination and perceived sexual immorality. Child labor laws and child sex laws? Put in place due to moral objections regarding the exploitation of children...

2)social contract that arise to protect the individual and/or see one's morality adhered to
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I think Ravi's gotten more stupid as of late
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Quote: Originally Posted by Ravi View Post
Let me say this, JButtemia, it has nothing to do with religion and everything to do with legislating someone else's morals...even a twitty atheist OPINION like your OPINION is still forcing your moralist beliefs on the rest of the country.

Move to Saudi Arabia.
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lol....civil rights are someones moral beliefs
How so?

You're a fucking idiot. 'Civil rights' are protected for two reasons

1) it is considered to be moral or good to grant and protect them. Slavery? Ended due to moral objections. Women's suffrage? A moral issue regarding sexual equality. 'Gay marriage' a moral issue regarding discrimination and perceived sexual immorality. Child labor laws and child sex laws? Put in place due to moral objections regarding the exploitation of children...

2)social contract that arise to protect the individual and/or see one's morality adhered to
HOLY FUCKING SHIT! Add morality to the list of words JBitchema doesn't understand.
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I think Ravi's gotten more stupid as of late
She has always been immensely stupid. You guys just agreed with her ignorant positions. Like I said if she had 2 brain cells in her head where ever she lived would be in danger of a massive methane explosion if those 2 brain cells ever collided in her methane filled head.
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...there is another group that has entered the scene that, while smaller than the others, poses a huge danger to both of the aforementioned. These are those pro-life atheists and other non-religious persons who object to the slaughter of the unborn.
Still probably a lot smaller than the already entrenched group of religious and faithful that are pro-choice because they don't believe in forcing others to abide by their personal moral code of conduct.
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morality

concern with the distinction between good and evil or right and wrong; right or good conduct



moral - concerned with principles of right and wrong or conforming to standards of behavior and character based on those principles; "moral sense"; "a ...
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morality

concern with the distinction between good and evil or right and wrong; right or good conduct



moral - concerned with principles of right and wrong or conforming to standards of behavior and character based on those principles; "moral sense"; "a ...

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Now you're going to give me the line about murder and theft being outlawed because they are immoral.
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moral - concerned with principles of right and wrong or conforming to standards of behavior and character based on those principles; "moral sense"; "a ...

Thanks.

Now you're going to give me the line about murder and theft being outlawed because they are immoral.
to the prevaling ..some ...they are ...for others the law has to force this morality upon them
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I see of no reason why Gunpowder Treason
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"anti-lifer" is a strawman. Not worth reading the rest of your silly rant.
Anti-choicers are anti-lifers.
Pro choice is pro life.

And I suppose killing a baby is giving it life?
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