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you must spend a lot of time in church.
never, actually.
snappy comeback.
I bet you go to church.
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never, actually.
snappy comeback.
I bet you go to church.
sorry, too late.
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snappy comeback.
I bet you go to church.
sorry, too late.
afraid to admit it?
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Old 06-17-2009, 08:50 AM
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Do we need religion?
In a word, yes.
The op asked "we". So you are incorrect in stating "yes" as many we's don't.
Wrong.

I'd normally explain the flaw in your logic, but since you've already demonstrated a propensity to ignore logic it hardly seems worth my time.

Carry on.
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I bet you go to church.
sorry, too late.
afraid to admit it?
yeah, admitting things on anonymous message boards to drooling canadian asshats scares the shit out of me.
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sorry, too late.
afraid to admit it?
yeah, admitting things on anonymous message boards to drooling canadian asshats scares the shit out of me.
That's what I thought, a simpleton.
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Does Al realize how stupid he looks right now?
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Does Al realize how stupid he looks right now?
self awareness isn't his strong suit.
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Does Al realize how stupid he looks right now?
self awareness isn't his strong suit.
JPuke, you're the biggest windbag of them all. You obviously don't know what stupid looks like, or you'd stfu.

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right

When you show yourself capable of intelligent thought and critical thinking, we might take you seriously. As it stands, you're just another joke on the internet.
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Does Al realize how stupid he looks right now?
self awareness isn't his strong suit.
JPuke, you're the biggest windbag of them all. You obviously don't know what stupid looks like, or you'd stfu.

del simpleton.
no fair, you've gone and hired a writer, haven't you?
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right

When you show yourself capable of intelligent thought and critical thinking, we might take you seriously. As it stands, you're just another joke on the internet.
Sure thing, you windy douchebag.
In your case it's critical stinking up the joint, the joke's on you.
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It's like hearing a middle-schooler trying to come up with a smart retort- it's just not working

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Religion allows people to make up answers to troubling questions they can't answer. Even great minds like Newton have sought refuge in religion,upon reaching the limits of their understanding. On the personal level, it is a coping mechanism and source of comfort. On the social level, it has long been a powerful means of control and a strong unifying factor capable of binding large numbers of otherwise diverse persons together into a singular People. Take, for example, Constantine's use of his own brand of neo-christianity (what would become Roman Catholicism) to bind the Roman populace together under the cross, when they were otherwise greatly varied in all but the name 'Roman'.
Your history is quite accurate. Constantine and well through the middle ages and of course most currently today, religion or more specifically the imposition of the fear of God and eternal damnation has been the most effective tool in ruling what is other wise intelligent reasonable people who would live by their own ideologies, their own means. I usually refer these folks as those who hide behind a cloak of piety with a dagger in hand. Folks like Jim Jones for instance and thousands of others who have sealed the fate, if only their mortality, by words and in his case, by guns. What a sick fuck that guy was.

Historically, Bishops have had great power in fact even over Kings in an intrinsic way because they knew it's better to pose fear in someone losing their honor and perhaps their souls than to have them battle with a sword. Eventually they might win. But who could win over something they cannot physically grasp.

And it's not only the morals of the king's court that is imposed. It begins to work on a person's sense of personal morality, sense of being disciplined by gulit or shame and most certainly, in this scenario, ultimate corruption.

Good post, JB, Thanks!

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When you show yourself capable of intelligent thought and critical thinking, we might take you seriously. As it stands, you're just another joke on the internet.
Sure thing, you windy douchebag.
In your case it's critical stinking up the joint, the joke's on you.
If only you could make a joke ...
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