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10-08-2008, 01:11 PM
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Rep Power: 1 | | | The Rapture Matthew 24:40 Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
Most people familiar with Mathew 24:40 believe that this is speaking of an end time rapture involving two different people, one goes with God and the other is destroyed or left behind to suffer tribulation.
But let's think outside the box for a moment. With scripture we will soon see that this verse is actually hiding an incredible truth that at this point in Christian history, 99.9% do not see.
Mathew 24:40 is actually speaking of one person circumcised by the word of God. When the Word first came to you, you were spiritually cut in two, separating the old man (flesh), from the new man (inward man).
1John 3:8,9 displays this hidden truth perfectly. " He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil. Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God."
1 Corinthians 15:22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
1 Corinthians 15:47-49 "The first man is of the earth, earthy: the second man is the Lord from heaven. As is the earthy, such are they also that are earthy: and as is the heavenly, such are they also that are heavenly. And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly."
Mt 8:5-10 "And when Jesus was entered into Capernaum, there came unto him a centurion, beseeching him, And saying, Lord, my servant lieth at home sick of the palsy, grievously tormented. And Jesus saith unto him, I will come and heal him. The centurion answered and said, Lord, I am not worthy that thou shouldest come under my roof: but speak the word only, and my servant shall be healed. For I am a man under authority, having soldiers under me: and I say to this man, Go, and he goeth; and to another, Come, and he cometh; and to my servant, Do this, and he doeth it. When Jesus heard it, he marvelled, and said to them that followed, Verily I say unto you, I have not found so great faith, no, not in Israel." Faith in what? The power of the word
John 6:63 "It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life".
Jeremiah 13:23 - Can the Ethiopian change his skin, or the leopard his spots? then may ye also do good, that are accustomed to do evil.
Romans 9:21 "Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?"
Mathew 24:40 "Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left."
Ecclesiastes 4:15 "I considered all the living which walk under the sun, with the second child that shall stand up in his stead."
Take some time to ponder these things -HumptyDumpty
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10-08-2008, 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Ravi Wow, I always took it to mean he'd be taking the Dems to heaven and leaving the Reps behind. | LOL! Indeed.......By the way I am not a "Republican..." Someday people will realize they are two sides of the same coin. One side being Socialism and the other being Fascism. Both result in tyranny and population control.
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Originally Posted by HumptyDumpty LOL! Indeed.......By the way I am not a "Republican..." Someday people will realize they are two sides of the same coin. One side being Socialism and the other being Fascism. Both result in tyranny and population control. | So true.
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Originally Posted by LOki lolz. | Wow your signature at the bottom will be a great weapon when the IRS comes to ask me why I keep filing exempt on my w-4 forms....I'm stealing that for my blog......One of the best quotes I've seen yet...Thanks
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Originally Posted by HumptyDumpty LOL! Indeed.......By the way I am not a "Republican..." Someday people will realize they are two sides of the same coin. One side being Socialism and the other being Fascism. Both result in tyranny and population control. | I was being kind of serious. I do agree on the socialism/fascism thing, but I don't consider most Dems and Reps either of those things. When you think about it, Democrats attract people that want to help other people, and Republicans attract people that are in it for themselves. So if the traditional thought of what the rapture is is true...
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10-08-2008, 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Ravi I was being kind of serious. I do agree on the socialism/fascism thing, but I don't consider most Dems and Reps either of those things. When you think about it, Democrats attract people that want to help other people, and Republicans attract people that are in it for themselves. So if the traditional thought of what the rapture is is true... | Well I guess my argument against that would be that George W. Bush claims to be a conservative Republican and yet he has spent more $$ than any and all other previous Presidents combined as well as chopped down the constitution as if it were George Washington's cherry tree.
Democrat and Republican are nothing more than a divisional smoke screen to hijack our republic.
These same Republicans and Democrats passed laws to allow this
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Originally Posted by HumptyDumpty Well I guess my argument against that would be that George W. Bush claims to be a conservative Republican and yet he has spent more $$ than any and all other previous Presidents combined as well as chopped down the constitution as if it were George Washington's cherry tree.
Democrat and Republican are nothing more than a divisional smoke screen to hijack our republic.
These same Republicans and Democrats passed laws to allow this | Ah, I wasn't talking about the politicians, but rather the people that choose one party or another. The pols are all going to hell as far as I can tell.
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Originally Posted by Ravi Ah, I wasn't talking about the politicians, but rather the people that choose one party or another. The pols are all going to hell as far as I can tell. | And the interesting thing is, it seems, is most Christians are Republican ironically.$$$$$$$$$$"Buy my prayer cloth"
It may be time to flip over the money changers tables............in the temple.
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Originally Posted by HumptyDumpty Well I guess my argument against that would be that George W. Bush claims to be a conservative Republican and yet he has spent more $$ than any and all other previous Presidents combined as well as chopped down the constitution as if it were George Washington's cherry tree.
Democrat and Republican are nothing more than a divisional smoke screen to hijack our republic.
These same Republicans and Democrats passed laws to allow this | A blog article by Ellen Hodgson, JD?? She not even pass the bar exam?
Sheesh...
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Oh yeah......the basis for the rapture myth is based in Jewish theology. It's when all the evil of the world is winked out of existence. They got it wrong.....they're not gonna go up and join Yeshua in the air, they're going to be taken off the planet and forgotten about.
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Originally Posted by HumptyDumpty LOL! Indeed.......By the way I am not a "Republican..." Someday people will realize they are two sides of the same coin. One side being Socialism and the other being Fascism. Both result in tyranny and population control. |
Well to a degree that is true... But Fascism came into being as a result of the Socialist International's failure to close the deal... Fascism is what the great unwashed want. It's that 'middle ground,' the great compromise.... 'the 3rd way'...
Given the choice, Fascism is preferable to Socialism, in much the same way as Gonorrhea is preferable to syphilis... and this is because if one recognizes the symptoms and takes measures to cure the cultural body, it's much easier to come back from Fascism; once a culture has succumbed to socialism, it's instinct for business; it's intuition for commerce and it's initiative are lost... Such was and largely remains the problem in Iraq and Afghanistan; decades of socialism has dulled the culture’s instinct for commerce; and where people are out there working and making business, the independent, moderate, centrist, progressives... (The a-politicals that don't want to be labeled and have to defend their ideological positions... which is to avoid saying that they don't want TO THINK) get pissed... envious of the profits that commerce has produced and they start questioning how the businessman can have so much while they work for the government and have so very little... Those people aren't politicians... they're the one's the politicians respond to; BECAUSE THEY CAN BE USED.
LOL... DID you see that U-tube video someone sourced the other day? There was a 400lb female war protester standing on some DC stage complaining that she didn't have enough to eat? THAT is a PERFECT example of a socialist... The woman is larger than half of the Hyundai product line and she's reeling about how she's TIRED of having to tell her kids at night that they will have to get up and figure out a way to find some food... Of course the kids are thinkin': "I'm good, I'll just get up early to beat you to the fridge..."
She's also tired of having to get up every day and figuring out a way to make the rent... which no doubt puts a TON of pressure on the cable bill, the light bill... GASOLINE! And Blockbuster? Forgedaboudit~
The problem isn't the politicians friend... it's the socialists and the fascists that elect them.
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Originally Posted by HumptyDumpty Wow your signature at the bottom will be a great weapon when the IRS comes to ask me why I keep filing exempt on my w-4 forms....I'm stealing that for my blog......One of the best quotes I've seen yet...Thanks | Enjoy going to jail or heavy fines if you are refusing to pay your legal taxes and telling others not to as well.
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