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10-08-2008, 07:18 AM
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I want to show you how we so easily can be tricked and are carnally minded(in the flesh) when we read scripture, so much so that things that are hidden we miss……
Here is the experiment: What works does Jesus say we must do in the following passage …..? Realizing that I already told you that your mind is going to be tricked into thinking carnally instead of spiritually…..Give me your answer after you study these 2 verses then if you don't see it I'll show you a pearl….P.S. these verses were set up by God this way on purpose to hide the pearl…..
John 6:28, 29 - Then said they unto him, What shall we do, that we might work the works of God?
Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.
In the above verses what works does Jesus say we must do?
Send me your answer
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10-08-2008, 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by HumptyDumpty  I want to show you how we so easily can be tricked and are carnally minded(in the flesh) when we read scripture, so much so that things that are hidden we miss……
Here is the experiment: What works does Jesus say we must do in the following passage …..? Realizing that I already told you that your mind is going to be tricked into thinking carnally instead of spiritually…..Give me your answer after you study these 2 verses then if you don't see it I'll show you a pearl….P.S. these verses were set up by God this way on purpose to hide the pearl…..
John 6:28, 29 - Then said they unto him, What shall we do, that we might work the works of God?
Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.
What works does Jesus say we must do?
Send me your answer | Love God and Love each other.
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10-08-2008, 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by HumptyDumpty What works does Jesus say we must do? | Believe in Christ. |
10-08-2008, 11:23 AM
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but he saying believe in me that God and I are one
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Originally Posted by jla1178 Believe in Christ. | Your answer, jla and Andrew, is the majority response. Read it again carefully to find a hidden pearl. Hint: Notice Jesus never reveals to them what "their" work should be.
Your mind is tricked by the question they ask, "What must 'we' do...."
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10-08-2008, 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by HumptyDumpty Your answer jla is the majority response. Read it again carefully to find a hidden pearl. Hint: Notice Jesus never reveals to them what "their" work should be.
Your mind is tricked by the question they ask, "What must 'we' do...." | no--it really isn't.
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"But though there is no difference in this respect between the best demagogue and the worst, both of them having to present their cases equally in terms of melodrama, there is all the difference in the world between the statesman who is humbugging the people into allowing him to do the will of God, in whatever disguise it may come to him, and one who is humbugging them into furthering his personal ambition and the commercial interests of the plutocrats who own the newspapers and support him on reciprocal terms."
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10-08-2008, 11:58 AM
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Rep Power: 77 | | | Since Jesus said that "this is the work of God" that those of us that believe in Him, believe in Him....
the answer would be nothing....and support the "predisposition" doctrine....we were chosen before we were born.....our insight in to who Jesus Christ is was given to us from above....
I am uncertain how this also fits with the doctrines of free will that many Christian churches have also taken....?
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Originally Posted by Care4all Since Jesus said that "this is the work of God" that those of us that believe in Him, believe in Him....
the answer would be nothing....and support the "predisposition" doctrine....we were chosen before we were born.....our insight in to who Jesus Christ is was given to us from above....
I am uncertain how this also fits with the doctrines of free will that many Christian churches have also taken....?
Care | Jesus cited many works that were to be done --all having to do with loving. Believing is not a work. Loving is.
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"But though there is no difference in this respect between the best demagogue and the worst, both of them having to present their cases equally in terms of melodrama, there is all the difference in the world between the statesman who is humbugging the people into allowing him to do the will of God, in whatever disguise it may come to him, and one who is humbugging them into furthering his personal ambition and the commercial interests of the plutocrats who own the newspapers and support him on reciprocal terms."
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10-08-2008, 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Care4all Since Jesus said that "this is the work of God" that those of us that believe in Him, believe in Him....
the answer would be nothing....and support the "predisposition" doctrine....we were chosen before we were born.....our insight in to who Jesus Christ is was given to us from above....
I am uncertain how this also fits with the doctrines of free will that many Christian churches have also taken....?
Care | Exactly correct Care4all....For insight on the last part of your statement see my blog post "Then Shall Two be in the Field"
God is surely capable of finishing his work
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Originally Posted by HumptyDumpty Exactly correct Care4all....For insight on the last part of your statement see my blog post "Then Shall Two be in the Field"
God is surely capable of finishing his work | gobbly gook-----
you asked Quote: |
What works does Jesus say we must do?
| Do you just suggest we ignore his answers ?
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"But though there is no difference in this respect between the best demagogue and the worst, both of them having to present their cases equally in terms of melodrama, there is all the difference in the world between the statesman who is humbugging the people into allowing him to do the will of God, in whatever disguise it may come to him, and one who is humbugging them into furthering his personal ambition and the commercial interests of the plutocrats who own the newspapers and support him on reciprocal terms."
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10-08-2008, 12:42 PM
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Have we gotten an answer yet? I haven't time to delve into the passage right now..
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10-08-2008, 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by dilloduck gobbly gook-----
you asked
Do you just suggest we ignore his answers ? | LOL! Care4all gave the answer...Jesus never reveals what "their work" should be. But he does reveal something...It is way more exciting if you find it yourself. Read Care4all's post if can't see it.
I just had to laugh at the irony of your signature....Laughing with you not at you.
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Originally Posted by HumptyDumpty LOL! Care4all gave the answer...Jesus never reveals what "their work" should be. But he does reveal something...It is way more exciting if you find it yourself. Read Care4all's post if can't see it.
I just had to laugh at the irony of your signature....Laughing with you not at you. | semantic games bore me. Jesus very clearly commands people to love.
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"But though there is no difference in this respect between the best demagogue and the worst, both of them having to present their cases equally in terms of melodrama, there is all the difference in the world between the statesman who is humbugging the people into allowing him to do the will of God, in whatever disguise it may come to him, and one who is humbugging them into furthering his personal ambition and the commercial interests of the plutocrats who own the newspapers and support him on reciprocal terms."
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Originally Posted by dilloduck semantic games bore me. Jesus very clearly commands people to love. | dilloduck, are you reading the same verse we are? We are talking about a hidden gem in a specific verse....Yes Jesus commands us to love but you are missing the point of my post. Please read the original post.
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Originally Posted by HumptyDumpty dilloduck, are you reading the same verse we are? We are talking about a hidden gem in a specific verse....Yes Jesus commands us to love but you are missing the point of my post. Please read the original post. | I'm obviously much less impressed by this "gem" than you are. Faith without works is dead.
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"But though there is no difference in this respect between the best demagogue and the worst, both of them having to present their cases equally in terms of melodrama, there is all the difference in the world between the statesman who is humbugging the people into allowing him to do the will of God, in whatever disguise it may come to him, and one who is humbugging them into furthering his personal ambition and the commercial interests of the plutocrats who own the newspapers and support him on reciprocal terms."
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