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Confession

I practiced confession as a Catholic, by going to a priest, and telling the priest my "sins" and asking for forgiveness.

My practice of confession as a Buddhist is quite different.

Do you use confession in your religion or spiritual path?
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Yes but I confess and ask forgiveness directly to God. If I have offended or wronged a person I may ask for forgiveness from them also. Going to a third party who has nothing to do with the issue seems kinda senseless to me.
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According to Catholic teachings established by the Council of Trent in the 16th century, the sacrament of penance was actually created by Jesus Christ when he appeared to his disciples after the resurrection. As recorded in the Gospel of John, Jesus spoke to them, saying, "If you forgive the sins of any, they are forgiven them; if you retain the sins of any, they are retained." According to the Catholic Church, in this verse Christ gives authority to his priests to act as judges and forgive or punish sins.

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According to Catholic teachings established by the Council of Trent in the 16th century, the sacrament of penance was actually created by Jesus Christ when he appeared to his disciples after the resurrection. As recorded in the Gospel of John, Jesus spoke to them, saying, "If you forgive the sins of any, they are forgiven them; if you retain the sins of any, they are retained." According to the Catholic Church, in this verse Christ gives authority to his priests to act as judges and forgive or punish sins.

Why Catholics Confess to a Priest | eHow
It's amazing how sinners keep disobeying God's commandment to "Not bear false witness against thy neighbors".

This is because God is our judge and Savior, not sinful pastors, priests and other self-proclaimed holy men. Not even us saints judge a man in this age. We're only here to tell God's people that they will be under the Old Covenant "veil" until their flesh perishes. Then they'll be forgiven of all their sins.

The wages of sin is death, not by sinful men judging each other.
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This is because God is our judge and Savior, not sinful pastors, priests and other self-proclaimed holy men. Not even us saints judge a man in this age. We're only here to tell God's people that they will be under the Old Covenant "veil" until their flesh perishes. Then they'll be forgiven of all their sins.

The wages of sin is death, not by sinful men judging each other.
Jesus granted the apostles his authority to forgive sins.

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II. The Necessity and Practice of Orally Confessing Sins

James 5:16 - James clearly teaches us that we must “confess our sins to one another,” not just privately to God. James 5:16 must be read in the context of James 5:14-15, which is referring to the healing power (both physical and spiritual) of the priests of the Church. Hence, when James says “therefore” in verse 16, he must be referring to the men he was writing about in verses 14 and 15 – these men are the ordained priests of the Church, to whom we must confess our sins.

Acts 19:18 - many came to orally confess sins and divulge their sinful practices. Oral confession was the practice of the early Church just as it is today.

Matt. 3:6; Mark 1:5 - again, this shows people confessing their sins before others as an historical practice (here to John the Baptist).

1 Tim. 6:12 - this verse also refers to the historical practice of confessing both faith and sins in the presence of many witnesses.

1 John 1:9 - if we confess are sins, God is faithful to us and forgives us and cleanse us. But we must confess our sins to one another.

Num. 5:7 - this shows the historical practice of publicly confessing sins, and making public restitution.

2 Sam. 12:14 - even though the sin is forgiven, there is punishment due for the forgiven sin. David is forgiven but his child was still taken (the consequence of his sin).

Neh. 9:2-3 - the Israelites stood before the assembly and confessed sins publicly and interceded for each other.

Sir. 4:26 - God tells us not to be ashamed to confess our sins, and not to try to stop the current of a river. Anyone who has experienced the sacrament of reconciliation understands the import of this verse.

Baruch 1:14 - again, this shows that the people made confession in the house of the Lord, before the assembly.

1 John 5:16-17; Luke 12:47-48 - there is a distinction between mortal and venial sins. This has been the teaching of the Catholic Church for 2,000 years, but, today, most Protestants no longer agree that there is such a distinction. Mortal sins lead to death and must be absolved in the sacrament of reconciliation. Venial sins do not have to be confessed to a priest, but the pious Catholic practice is to do so in order to advance in our journey to holiness.

Matt. 5:19 - Jesus teaches that breaking the least of commandments is venial sin (the person is still saved but is least in the kingdom), versus mortal sin (the person is not saved).

Scripture Catholic - SACRAMENT OF CONFESSION & FORGIVENESS OF SINS
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According to Catholic teachings established by the Council of Trent in the 16th century, the sacrament of penance was actually created by Jesus Christ when he appeared to his disciples after the resurrection. As recorded in the Gospel of John, Jesus spoke to them, saying, "If you forgive the sins of any, they are forgiven them; if you retain the sins of any, they are retained." According to the Catholic Church, in this verse Christ gives authority to his priests to act as judges and forgive or punish sins.

Why Catholics Confess to a Priest | eHow
Actually that authority is to the born again believer / disciples of Christ not a man made priest but as you have brought it up the bible scriptures declare that in the latter times there would be men who would teach such heresy. This speaks specifically to the Roman Catholic Church forbidding marriage for priests and nuns ( which is not taught in the bible ) when the Apostle Peter was married! As were many others.....


It is written:

The Spirit clearly says that in the later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons. Such teachings come through hypocritical liars, whose consciences have been seared as with a hot iron. They forbid people to marry and order them to abstain from certain foods, which God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and know the truth. For everything God created is good, and nothing is to be rejected if it is received with thanksgiving because it is consecrated by the word of God and prayer. - 1 Timothy 4: 1 - 5

Guess what? That was a man made enforced law that has resulted in much rape, molestation of boys, girls because it is un-natural and something the bible never ordained as a pre-requisite for being a servant of the Lord. The apostle Peter was a married man. Furthermore, every born again believer is a priest and a minister unto the Lord. Every sanctified believer is called a saint and was always addressed as saints from the book of Acts to this very day. The Apostle Paul said so.

The RCC perverted that teaching as well and claimed you had to be dead to become a saint and only at their say so. They claimed miracles, healings, answered prayer, a holy life was required for them to consider "canonizing someone as a saint"... guess what? All lies. They wanted to be gatekeepers and control what God had given freely to all mankind. The bible calls us saints while we are alive and it is the normal christian life to receive miraculous answer to prayer, healings, etc. What does 1 Timothy tell you to do? Point it out to the brethren:

It is written:

If you point these things out to the brothers, you will be a good minister of Christ Jesus, brought up in the truths of the faith and of the good teaching that you have followed. Have nothing to do with godless myths and old wives' tales, rather, train yourself to be godly. For physical training is of some value, but godliness has value for all things, holding promise for both the present life and the life to come. Anyone who is called to be an overseer of the church, a Pastor, Bishop, deacon should be the husband of one wife. Have a good reputation with outsiders, have his home in order - see 1 Timothy 3: 1- 14


So as you can see, Pacer, there is no biblical foundation for most of what the RCC teaches which is why the Roman leadership were the only ones with access to the bible scriptures prior to Martin Luthers Prostestant Reformation. They kept it from the people because they knew they had taken liberty with the scriptures and perverted them into something they were never meant to be. It is how homosexuality became rampant within the Roman Catholic Church. They forced men and women who desired to serve God to deny what God had given to them himself. Marriage is natural and was never forbidden by God. We can all serve God without giving up marriage. How is that for some liberty? Feeling a little lighter yet? Good!

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As I recall, penitents in the Roman Catholic church seek absolution and not forgiveness.
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As I recall, penitents in the Roman Catholic church seek absolution and not forgiveness.
Absolution IS forgiveness.

Absolution is a traditional theological term for the forgiveness experienced in the Sacrament of Penance.

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