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| So you are disputing the claim that somewhere between the early hominids, claimed to be ancestors of homo sapien by your Darwinist spin doctors, and homo sapien himself, there did not exist a species that was a single gradual step between the two distinct hominids at specific points in earth's history that had an a) smaller brain? b) more body hair? and c) a larger brow bone? |
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| ahhh. A classic Darwinist blunder.. confuse adaptation with the real meaing of the word evolution, i.e. a claim a species can move from a less complexity to more complexity. |
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| "A well-known scientist once gave a public lecture on astronomy. He described how the earth orbits around the sun and how the sun, in turn, orbits around the center of a vast collection of stars called our galaxy. At the end of the lecture, a little old lady at the back of the room got up and said: "What you have told us is rubbish. The world is really a flat plate supported on the back of a giant tortoise." The scientist gave a superior smile before replying, "What is the tortoise standing on?" "You're very clever, young man, very clever," said the old lady. "But it's turtles all the way down!" Last edited by UltimateReality; 01-23-2012 at 05:21 PM. |
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| "The God created the world the way it is and not the other because He knows better" -- and that gives you both complete and self-consistent explanation for anything and everything. It is also true, that to many people the explanation above feels deeply unsatisfactory. We want to create a model of the world that is based on facts logic and can, therefore, give us useful predictions that we can trust. We need it so we can make the world a better place. Last edited by UltimateReality; 01-23-2012 at 05:32 PM. |
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| "The God created the world the way it is and not the other because He knows better" -- and that gives you both complete and self-consistent explanation for anything and everything. It is also true, that to many people the explanation above feels deeply unsatisfactory. We want to create a model of the world that is based on facts logic and can, therefore, give us useful predictions that we can trust. We need it so we can make the world a better place. ![]() LOLsome.
__________________ "It is self-evident that no number of men, by conspiring, and calling themselves a government, can acquire any rights whatever over other men, or other men's property, which they had not before, as individuals. And whenever any number of men, calling themselves a government, do anything to another man, or to his property, which they had no right to do as individuals, they thereby declare themselves trespassers, robbers, or murderers, according to the nature of their acts." -Lysander Spooner "Necessity is the plea of every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants, it is the creed of slaves." - William Pitt |
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| Clearly the Earth is not flat (resting on foundations) with a solid dome (with windows to let out the waters of the firmament) over it. It actually is a myth from a few Christians that your side used as evidence to put all Christians in one group on this issue. Contra Mundum: The Flat-Earth Myth | MandM The Myth of the Flat Earth Myth of the Flat Earth Who invented the idea of a flat Earth? Still waiting.
__________________ EVOLUTIONISTS actually believe accidental helpful mutations will, it is claimed, gradually accumulate over millions of years, allowing a microbe to become a microbiologist. Last edited by Youwerecreated; 01-23-2012 at 06:26 PM. |
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| If you think your posts refute ID, you are more delusional than I previously thought.
__________________ EVOLUTIONISTS actually believe accidental helpful mutations will, it is claimed, gradually accumulate over millions of years, allowing a microbe to become a microbiologist. |
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| So you are disputing the claim that somewhere between the early hominids, claimed to be ancestors of homo sapien by your Darwinist spin doctors, and homo sapien himself, there did not exist a species that was a single gradual step between the two distinct hominids at specific points in earth's history that had an a) smaller brain? b) more body hair? and c) a larger brow bone? |
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| You are missing the point. I know that the Bible -- or, rather, its loose enough interpretation -- can explain Neanderthals and anything else we know about the world around us. And not a long time ago it was the best explanation -- but not anymore. The goal of the Theory of Evolution is to explain how the humans first appeared on this planet without involving God and his miracles. And it has been hugely successful at that -- and in particular thanks to finding the remains of Neanderthals and other transitional species. And because of the success of the Theory of Evolution we have more reasons to believe that the Bible is not a divine gift, but a collections of myth and stories written by ancient people. Nothing created gets better on it's own it is up to the designer to make things better. Your view defies logic. Do you think my house or my car would get better if I didn't maintain them ? How bout my body ?
__________________ EVOLUTIONISTS actually believe accidental helpful mutations will, it is claimed, gradually accumulate over millions of years, allowing a microbe to become a microbiologist. |
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| No your posts show you as an ignorant Ideologue.
__________________ "It is self-evident that no number of men, by conspiring, and calling themselves a government, can acquire any rights whatever over other men, or other men's property, which they had not before, as individuals. And whenever any number of men, calling themselves a government, do anything to another man, or to his property, which they had no right to do as individuals, they thereby declare themselves trespassers, robbers, or murderers, according to the nature of their acts." -Lysander Spooner "Necessity is the plea of every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants, it is the creed of slaves." - William Pitt |
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| It actually is a myth from a few Christians that your side used as evidence to put all Christians in one group on this issue. Contra Mundum: The Flat-Earth Myth | MandM The Myth of the Flat Earth Myth of the Flat Earth Who invented the idea of a flat Earth? Still waiting.
__________________ extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence/ Carl Sagan. I am/God I am wot I am/ Popeye " More beans Mr. Taggert?" "that looks like a penis....only smaller! People believe in conspiracy theories because the truth "is either too simple or too remote," says sociologist Clifton Bryant of Virginia Tech University, who has made a study of "deviant logic" and behavior. "We're always ready to believe something about which we know nothing," |
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| I didn't dodge anything. As I said, I never made any such statement, I never disputed anything of the sort. I very specifically pointed out the apparent flaws in your statements about minor cosmetic changes (two hair folicles!). You are attempting to add meaning to my posts that does not exist in order to further your argument. |
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| I didn't dodge anything. As I said, I never made any such statement, I never disputed anything of the sort. I very specifically pointed out the apparent flaws in your statements about minor cosmetic changes (two hair folicles!). You are attempting to add meaning to my posts that does not exist in order to further your argument.
__________________ extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence/ Carl Sagan. I am/God I am wot I am/ Popeye " More beans Mr. Taggert?" "that looks like a penis....only smaller! People believe in conspiracy theories because the truth "is either too simple or too remote," says sociologist Clifton Bryant of Virginia Tech University, who has made a study of "deviant logic" and behavior. "We're always ready to believe something about which we know nothing," |
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| What would you want to hear? The whole idea of finding historical/scientific confirmation of the Bible story is a nonsense. If you believe in God, you don't need any scientific proof. "The God created the world the way it is and not the other because He knows better" -- and that gives you both complete and self-consistent explanation for anything and everything. It is also true, that to many people the explanation above feels deeply unsatisfactory. We want to create a model of the world that is based on facts logic and can, therefore, give us useful predictions that we can trust. We need it so we can make the world a better place. ![]() LOLsome. Last edited by UltimateReality; 01-23-2012 at 06:07 PM. |
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