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Dominionists run for highest office in US

Michelle Bachmann, Rick Perry, Sarah Palin. Dominionists are gaining mainstream power.

Anyone read the newest article on Bachmann in the New Yorker? I did last night.

http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2...5fa_fact_lizza

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Dominionism:

The word itself holds the answer. It is about dominating. Taking over. For them it is a direct mandate from God in the Old Testament Book of Genesis Chapter 1:26-28. Defined in its simplest form, Christian Dominionism is a political approach to Christian faith and practice based on a literalistic interpretation of Chapter 1 verse 28 of the Book of Genesis. Wherein, they perceive themselves as the “Chosen” and are commanded to “subdue” the earth and “have dominion” over all living creatures.

The goal of Christian Dominionism is to abolish Separation of Church and State and to establish the United States as a distinctively Christian Nation based upon Old Testament Mosaic Law. Dominionism is an umbrella term that harbors many divergent groups claiming a foundation in Christianity. You must be “born again”…accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Saviour…and profess your personal relationship with Christ.” All Christians are not Dominionist, but all Dominionists claim Christianity.



The Infiltration of Religious Dominionism Into American Politics

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The movement is called the New Apostolic Reformation. Believers fashion themselves modern-day prophets and apostles. They have taken Pentecostalism, with its emphasis on ecstatic worship and the supernatural, and given it an adrenaline shot.

The movement’s top prophets and apostles believe they have a direct line to God. Through them, they say, He communicates specific instructions and warnings. When mankind fails to heed the prophecies, the results can be catastrophic: earthquakes in Japan, terrorist attacks in New York, and economic collapse. On the other hand, they believe their God-given decrees have ended mad cow disease in Germany and produced rain in drought-stricken Texas.


Rick Perry's Army of God | MadMikesAmerica

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Jerry Falwell, Tim LaHaye, Howard Ahmanson, James Dobson, D. James Kennedy — almost every fundamentalist follows Rousas John Rushdoony, 1916-2001. Newsweek once referred to Rushdoony’s Chalcedon Foundation as the think tank of the religious right.

But what you won’t hear in Sunday school is that Rushdoony is a racist, sexist, Jew-hating bigot who denies the holocaust. Don’t take it from me: The British Centre for Science Education refers to him as “a man every bit as potentially murderous as Stalin, Hitler, Pol Pot or anyone else you may want to name amongst the annals of evil.”



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So basically, they're the Christian equivalent of Islam's Taliban.
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So basically, they're the Christian equivalent of Islam's Taliban.
Yes, they are, and they represent a far more dangerous threat to America than Shariah Law.

The "Christian Taliban" , as you call them, is more likely to elect a President in the US than any Muslim ever gets to run for higher office.
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The Founding Fathers were cognizant that religious fanatics may attempt to subvert the secular nature of the Constitution in favor of a theocracy, so they crafted the 1st Amendment to maintain the separation of church and state. However, the religious right is not content to follow the tenets of the Constitution, and through movements like the moral majority have made every attempt to turn America into a theocracy by methods both covert and overt.

It is extraordinarily disturbing that religious organizations would attempt to influence the government or its leaders by preaching from the pulpit and encouraging church members to apply pressure to their representatives, but the past few years have seen an increase in direct involvement by fanatical representatives in Congress and it doesn’t bode well for America as a democracy. The religious right has lobbied for Christian-based, socially conservative policies in the realm of the family and especially to promote pro-life groups and anti-gay initiatives, but the new Christian Reconstructionists and Dominionists are taking their demagoguery to a new level inside the halls of government.



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Anyone read the newest article on Bachmann in the New Yorker? I did last night.
Yes, I’ve been aware of this abomination for quite some time. For years it was on the extreme fringe – since the advent of the TPM and current crop of GOP presidential candidates, however, it poses a greater threat.

Obviously the threat to the First Amendment is of greatest concern, but also telling and troubling is the belligerent arrogance these individuals possess, that they would attempt to codify their un-Constitutional beliefs compelling all to adhere to their religious dogma, as if they alone know ‘what’s best’ for America.
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Peter Wagner is the leader of the "New Apostolic Reformation" (NAR) movement, a branch of Christianity that pushes "Seven Mountains" dominionist theology that envisions a world takeover to enable Jesus Christ's return to earth. NAR's "apostles" and "prophets" played a large roll in Texas Gov. Rick Perry's "The Response" prayer meeting and may possibly be behind Perry's bid for the GOP presidential nomination.

Wagner's Global Harvest Ministries boldly promotes 7 Mountains Christian dominionism
Journalist Bruce Wilson has been following the activities of NAR for quite some time and released a video of Wagner today (see video below) in which Wagner called Mormons and Jehovah's Witnesses cults. In fact, Wagner has written that the Book of Mormon, Catholic statues and other religious objects are symbols of darkness and must be burned.

In the video, Wagner claims that the NAR movement is growing faster than the human race and Islam. Dismissing Catholicism as a "block" of Christianity, he claims that the NAR movement is the largest block of Christianity in the world today. His "prophet" Cindy Jacobs, in introducing him at a God.TV presentation, boasted that Wagner is one of the most powerful people on the planet.

The NAR movement and its Christian dominionists believe that education/science, government/military, religion, the family, arts and entertainment, business/finance and the media must be controlled by them. They advocate a theocracy where there is no separation of church and state.
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Dominionism is a doctrine which demands the total remaking of society to conform with the laws of the Old Testament of the Bible. It states that the second coming of Jesus Christ will never occur until "God's kingdom" is established on earth and reigns for either a thousand years or an unknown time period. They contend that all of the laws of the Old Testament, unless specifically revoked later in the Bible, are still valid and they want to literally replace the U.S. Constitution and legal system with the Ten Commandments and the Mosaic laws of the Bible.

If you don't follow the Christian faith, or if you ever leave it (we're talking millions of people in the U.S. alone) you'd be punished by death. Same thing for anyone who commits theft, who blasphemes (says "goddamn it"), or who commits heresy (says god does not exist). Frederick Clarkson, who wrote the book Eternal Hostilities: The Struggle Between Theocracy and Democracy, points out that "anyone responsible for abortion" (meaning women and abortion providers) would be given the death penalty as well."


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There is an ambitious spiritual warfare campaign that’s being planned by New Apostolic Reformation leaders. The campaign, “DC40,″ which aims to “lay siege” on Washington D.C. and bring about “the advancement of the Kingdom in the earth.” The New Apostolic Reformation, a neo-Pentecostal movement, is extremely anti-Pagan in its orientation. They call Washington D.C. the “District of Christ” because Columbia is an aspect of the Queen of Heaven, essentially the feminine divine in all its many forms, from Isis to Mary. They are obsessed with this (in their minds) demonic figure, and have devoted talks, written several books, and performed coordinated prayer campaigns against her.

The event starts on October 3rd, places special emphasis on Samhain/Día de los Muertos, and continues through most of November. It’s very clear that they expect real-world political dividends from this action, including the end of “compromise” and a return to Christian dominance in the United States.

The Wild Hunt » Pagan Reactions to the DC40 Prayer War



So far, Dominionist targets include:

Jehovah Witnesses, Mormons, homosexuals, pagans, and any other mainstream Christian that aren't "born again".
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The cult Gov. Rick Perry has involved himself with is the New Apostolic Reformation (NAR). The NAR has dozens of offshoots and an assortment of names such as Dominionists, Latter Rain, Kansas City Prophets, Third Wave, Joel’s Army, Manifest(ed) Sons of God, Five-Fold Ministry, to name a few. Another offshoot, and the one I’ll deal with here, is the International House of Prayer (IHOP), a splinter group of the Kansas City Prophets. Confusing? You betcha!

I’m not alone in my view that much of the NAR and IHOP theology and doctrines are unbiblical, most conservative Bible scholars, apologists and pastors agree. According to Brannon Howse:





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ZOMG! The SKY IS FALLING!

This is a non-mainstream movement with a tiny handful of adherents in congress. Be scared when they have the 2/3 majority required to amend the constitution. I'm about as scared of these assholes as I am the >1% of Americans who are Muslim.
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