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Christian Domestic Discipline (how to beat?)

It may appear amazing, but it's real.

Many christian followers teach the methods and the biblical origins of "christian domestic discipline" which mean how you can correct wife and kids behaviors.

Jewish rabbis also developed the question of domestic discipline and when wives should corrected by action in the Halaka.

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Domestic Discipline in a Christian Marriage

In the marriage relationship there is a past practice that I am sure you must have heard of which is called accountability or proactive love model of marriage. Today it is quite controversial and consists of a loving Christian husband using his authority and headship in a marriage in a very proactive, non-passive way to help his wife grow and mature spiritually. She is expected to submit and he is to love and protect her - both following the roles that Bible Believing Christians always agree upon.

What makes this model unique in the current times and culture is that the husband, in order to love his wife, has decided to use what might be called "God mirroring" or "practical godliness" - in other words, a following of God's methods of how He uses authority, and how God expects and tells mere humans to carry out their delegated authority.

This leads to physical discipline to lovingly keep the wife accountable to her master's God given authority. After these marriage relationships have been living with the husband as head and the wife in subjection to his authority, the wife always desires greatly to have this type of relationship with her husband, feeling that the husband is showing practical love when he corrects her with physical and painful discipline for sinful habits or other various things. She wants to be in subjection and so obeying means allowing discipline in any way her master/husband determines is necessary.

The discipline of a master/husband is not based on hitting with fists or fighting in general and in fact is potentially to help avoid improper male aggression and abusiveness of that sort. Instead, the husband has the right to thoughtfully use Biblical chastising to help correct his wife, arguing that it cannot be abuse since God gives merit to human leaders using discipline in the outwork of authority.

DD In a Christian Marriage
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It may appear amazing, but it's real.

Many christian followers teach the methods and the biblical origins of "christian domestic discipline" which mean how you can correct wife and kids behaviors.

Jewish rabbis also developed the question of domestic discipline and when wives should corrected by action in the Halaka.
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Quran 4:34
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Allah has made men superior to women because men spend their wealth to support them. Therefore, virtuous women are obedient, and they are to guard their unseen parts as Allah has guarded them. As for women whom you fear will rebel, admonish them first, and then send them to a separate bed, and then beat them. But if they are obedi-ent after that, then do nothing further; surely Allah is exalted and great!
Egyptian Cleric Says Wife Beating Is Allah-Approved...
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It may appear amazing, but it's real.

Many christian followers teach the methods and the biblical origins of "christian domestic discipline" which mean how you can correct wife and kids behaviors.

Jewish rabbis also developed the question of domestic discipline and when wives should corrected by action in the Halaka.

Quote:
Domestic Discipline in a Christian Marriage

In the marriage relationship there is a past practice that I am sure you must have heard of which is called accountability or proactive love model of marriage. Today it is quite controversial and consists of a loving Christian husband using his authority and headship in a marriage in a very proactive, non-passive way to help his wife grow and mature spiritually. She is expected to submit and he is to love and protect her - both following the roles that Bible Believing Christians always agree upon.

What makes this model unique in the current times and culture is that the husband, in order to love his wife, has decided to use what might be called "God mirroring" or "practical godliness" - in other words, a following of God's methods of how He uses authority, and how God expects and tells mere humans to carry out their delegated authority.

This leads to physical discipline to lovingly keep the wife accountable to her master's God given authority. After these marriage relationships have been living with the husband as head and the wife in subjection to his authority, the wife always desires greatly to have this type of relationship with her husband, feeling that the husband is showing practical love when he corrects her with physical and painful discipline for sinful habits or other various things. She wants to be in subjection and so obeying means allowing discipline in any way her master/husband determines is necessary.

The discipline of a master/husband is not based on hitting with fists or fighting in general and in fact is potentially to help avoid improper male aggression and abusiveness of that sort. Instead, the husband has the right to thoughtfully use Biblical chastising to help correct his wife, arguing that it cannot be abuse since God gives merit to human leaders using discipline in the outwork of authority.

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In every relationship there is one who is more passive and one who is dominant. Otherwise, there is no relationship. It's not rocket science, and has nothing to do with physical punishment, no matter how much as the left gets off on thinking about that.
this is a poll in Christian webpage

Is It Okay for a Christian Husband to Gently Beat his Wife?

47% Yes
45% No
04% undecided
04% sometimes
Poll: Is It Okay for A Christian Husband to Gently Beat His Wife | ChristWire

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In every relationship there is one who is more passive and one who is dominant. Otherwise, there is no relationship. It's not rocket science, and has nothing to do with physical punishment, no matter how much as the left gets off on thinking about that.
Islam demeans women.
Does your guru roberston teach you those bible verses?

"And the daughter of any priest, if she profane herself by playing the *****, she profaneth her father: she shall be burnt with fire." (Leviticus 21:9)

""When men strive together one with another, and the wife of the one draweth near for to deliver her husband out of the hand of him that smiteth him, and putteth forth her hand, and taketh him by the secrets: then thou shalt cut off her hand, thine eye shall not pity her".- (Deuteronomy 25:11-12)

"Let the women learn in silence with all subjection. But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence
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In every relationship there is one who is more passive and one who is dominant. Otherwise, there is no relationship. It's not rocket science, and has nothing to do with physical punishment, no matter how much as the left gets off on thinking about that.
Islam demeans women.
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Does your guru roberston teach you those bible verses?
My pagan moon god allah teaches Quranic verses, slave of allah...

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Allah has made men superior to women because men spend their wealth to support them. Therefore, virtuous women are obedient, and they are to guard their unseen parts as Allah has guarded them. As for women whom you fear will rebel, admonish them first, and then send them to a separate bed, and then beat them. But if they are obedi-ent after that, then do nothing further; surely Allah is exalted and great!
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In every relationship there is one who is more passive and one who is dominant. Otherwise, there is no relationship. It's not rocket science, and has nothing to do with physical punishment, no matter how much as the left gets off on thinking about that.
this is a poll in Christian webpage

Is It Okay for a Christian Husband to Gently Beat his Wife?

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04% undecided
04% sometimes
Poll: Is It Okay for A Christian Husband to Gently Beat His Wife | ChristWire

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Yeah and? if that poll was conducted in Saudi Arabia for instance it would be 99% yes. It doesn't matter what the Bible says because in most Christian countries if you hit your wife and she tells the police, you get arrested. What happens if a woman is beat in an Islamic country and she tells the police?
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In every relationship there is one who is more passive and one who is dominant. Otherwise, there is no relationship. It's not rocket science, and has nothing to do with physical punishment, no matter how much as the left gets off on thinking about that.
this is a poll in Christian webpage

Is It Okay for a Christian Husband to Gently Beat his Wife?

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Poll: Is It Okay for A Christian Husband to Gently Beat His Wife | ChristWire

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Yeah and? if that poll was conducted in Saudi Arabia for instance it would be 99% yes. It doesn't matter what the Bible says because in most Christian countries if you hit your wife and she tells the police, you get arrested. What happens if a woman is beat in an Islamic country and she tells the police?
it's just your opinion; according to police and FBI investigation few cases of domestic violence are reported to police...it's the same case everywhere.

Sadly 1/3 of violence against woman in the world is reported in US and GB.

In religious view
, beating the face and fighting is condemned by all religions, however it's correction"gently" of wife which is discussed.

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In some cases physical action is required but hitting and injuring is not accepted.
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this is a poll in Christian webpage

Is It Okay for a Christian Husband to Gently Beat his Wife?

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Poll: Is It Okay for A Christian Husband to Gently Beat His Wife | ChristWire

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Yeah and? if that poll was conducted in Saudi Arabia for instance it would be 99% yes. It doesn't matter what the Bible says because in most Christian countries if you hit your wife and she tells the police, you get arrested. What happens if a woman is beat in an Islamic country and she tells the police?
it's just your opinion; according to police and FBI investigation few cases of domestic violence are reported to police...it's the same case everywhere.

Sadly 1/3 of violence against woman in the world is reported in US and GB.

In religious view
, beating the face and fighting is condemned by all religions, however it's correction"gently" of wife which is discussed.

So imagine, if wife is beating children's husband, should the husband stay neutral?! Guests cannot see images in the messages. Please register to forum by clicking here to see images.
In some cases physical action is required but hitting and injuring is not accepted.
They don't report cases of abuse against women in the middle east except Israel, if they did the Arab countries would be leaps and bounds above the US and GB in that category. Also how do "gently" correct a wife? shaking? slapping?
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In every relationship there is one who is more passive and one who is dominant. Otherwise, there is no relationship. It's not rocket science, and has nothing to do with physical punishment, no matter how much as the left gets off on thinking about that.
Islam demeans women.
I wasn't talking about Islam.

Which absolutely demeans women.
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