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Quote: Originally Posted by Scotty I understand what you are saying but my objective is to reduce minority crime. Instead of diverting the topic or spreading misinformation, explain to me how you would reduce the problem. Your OP ignores that whites make up over a third of the prison population yet questions whether or not minorities are criminal in nature and states that black males are to blame for the crime problem in the US. Yeah, that's an excellent starting point for a good, honest brainstorming session on how to reduce minority crime in this country.
Maybe you should take a mulligan on this thread and start another.
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Quote: Originally Posted by Article 15
Quote: Originally Posted by Scotty I understand what you are saying but my objective is to reduce minority crime. Instead of diverting the topic or spreading misinformation, explain to me how you would reduce the problem. Your OP ignores that whites make up over a third of the prison population yet questions whether or not minorities are criminal in nature and states that black males are to blame for the crime problem in the US. Yeah, that's an excellent starting point for a good, honest brainstorming session on how to reduce minority crime in this country.
Maybe you should take a mulligan on this thread and start another. Whites make up 72% of the Total US population and 1/3 the prison population. Blacks make up 12.9% of the total US poplation and 52% of the prison population. Quit making excuses for them and look for solutions.
I put forth my solution. Where's your solution to reduce minority crime? My solution is feasable. Obama could be the voice. Where's your solution?
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Quote: Originally Posted by Article 15
Quote: Originally Posted by Scotty I understand what you are saying but my objective is to reduce minority crime. Instead of diverting the topic or spreading misinformation, explain to me how you would reduce the problem. Your OP ignores that whites make up over a third of the prison population yet questions whether or not minorities are criminal in nature and states that black males are to blame for the crime problem in the US. Yeah, that's an excellent starting point for a good, honest brainstorming session on how to reduce minority crime in this country.
Maybe you should take a mulligan on this thread and start another. This qoute>>>>>>>>>>>>>Are the minorities criminal in nature or can we educate them and put them on the right path?
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Quote: Originally Posted by Scotty
Quote: Originally Posted by Article 15
Quote: Originally Posted by Scotty I understand what you are saying but my objective is to reduce minority crime. Instead of diverting the topic or spreading misinformation, explain to me how you would reduce the problem. Your OP ignores that whites make up over a third of the prison population yet questions whether or not minorities are criminal in nature and states that black males are to blame for the crime problem in the US. Yeah, that's an excellent starting point for a good, honest brainstorming session on how to reduce minority crime in this country.
Maybe you should take a mulligan on this thread and start another. Whites make up 72% of the Total US population and 1/3 the prison population. Blacks make up 12.9% of the total US poplation and 52% of the prison population. Quit making excuses for them and look for solutions.
I put forth my solution. Where's your solution to reduce minority crime? My solution is feasable. Obama could be the voice. Where's your solution? You and I differ on what the problem is.
You seem to think it's racial.
I think it's economical with a splash of unfairness towards minorities in our criminal justice system.
That's the disconnect.
My shift is over and I'm going home to crash. If you are around tomorrow night maybe we can continue.
BTW, "Obama could be the voice" is hardly a solution let alone a feasible one.
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Quote: Originally Posted by Article 15
Quote: Originally Posted by Scotty
Quote: Originally Posted by Article 15
Your OP ignores that whites make up over a third of the prison population yet questions whether or not minorities are criminal in nature and states that black males are to blame for the crime problem in the US. Yeah, that's an excellent starting point for a good, honest brainstorming session on how to reduce minority crime in this country.
Maybe you should take a mulligan on this thread and start another. Whites make up 72% of the Total US population and 1/3 the prison population. Blacks make up 12.9% of the total US poplation and 52% of the prison population. Quit making excuses for them and look for solutions.
I put forth my solution. Where's your solution to reduce minority crime? My solution is feasable. Obama could be the voice. Where's your solution? You and I differ on what the problem is.
You seem to think it's racial.
I think it's economical with a splash of unfairness towards minorities in our criminal justice system.
That's the disconnect.
My shift is over and I'm going home to crash. If you are around tomorrow night maybe we can continue.
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A large section of the African American community not only commit a disproportionate amount of crime (mostly on each other) but they celebrate it in their music, they have made an art out of it.
Known as Hip Hop.
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Quote: Originally Posted by Article 15 So if we just get rid of all the black and brown people then crime will no longer be an issue in the US? Yep.
It's not Asians committing all the crime... in fact, they commit less crime than WHITES. What do you have to say about that?
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Quote: Originally Posted by Article 15 So if we just get rid of all the black and brown people then crime will no longer be an issue in the US? Yep.
It's not Asians committing all the crime... in fact, they commit less crime than WHITES. What do you have to say about that? Really...the cambodians and laotians out here sure do commit alot of crimes. | 
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Quote: Originally Posted by Scotty I am white and I want to put forth my problem with African Americans. It is real simple they make up 12.9% of the population Comparisons between whites and African-Americans[/url] Comparisons between whites and African-Americans[/url]) according to this website. Based on current rates of first incarceration, an estimated 28% of black males will enter State or Federal prison during their lifetime, compared to 16% of Hispanic males and 4.4% of white males
Sixty-five percent of state prison inmates belonged to racial or ethnic minorities in 1991, up from 60% in 1986.
At current levels of incarceration newborn black males in this country have a greater than a 1 in 4 chance of going to prison during their lifetimes, while Hispanic males have a 1 in 6 chance, and white males have a 1 in 23 chance of serving time. NCJ 160092
The number of drug trafficking convictions in State courts more than doubled between 1986 and1990. Of persons convicted of drug trafficking in State courts in 1990--85% were male 42% were white, 57% black, and 1% of other races
Minorities commit too much crime in our country. What will we do about this. Are the minorities criminal in nature or can we educate them and put them on the right path?
Minorities , specifically african american males are to blame for our crime problem in the US. I know this will sounds like a liberal cop-out, but I think it has to deal with poverty and the culture of hopelessness in the ghetto! Poverty breeds crime. It always does in every society in the world, regardless of the color or religion of the people. Right now the black community is at the bottom of the economic scale. I believe many of the Black leaders of today (Wright, Jackson, Sharpton, Leader of Black Panthers) promote self-loathing and blaming others instead of themselves for not climbing the economic ladder, but that is a different argument for a different thread.
Another statistic, which I am not going to look up, is that more black children grow up in fatherless! Believe it or not liberals, this has a profound effect on children.
Black children are also come out into a world where drugs and violence are all around them. Also getting picked on in the ghetto is a lot worse than getting picked on in the burbs! No child likes to get picked on. We also see weakness as dishonorable, so the was to get respect is by joining a gang! The only people they see making money are the drug dealers! They know few if any people that have gone to college. This all creates a cycle of hopelessness!
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Quote: Originally Posted by Scotty
Quote: Originally Posted by Article 15
Quote: Originally Posted by Scotty
Whites make up 72% of the Total US population and 1/3 the prison population. Blacks make up 12.9% of the total US poplation and 52% of the prison population. Quit making excuses for them and look for solutions.
I put forth my solution. Where's your solution to reduce minority crime? My solution is feasable. Obama could be the voice. Where's your solution? You and I differ on what the problem is.
You seem to think it's racial.
I think it's economical with a splash of unfairness towards minorities in our criminal justice system.
That's the disconnect.
My shift is over and I'm going home to crash. If you are around tomorrow night maybe we can continue.
BTW, "Obama could be the voice" is hardly a solution let alone a feasible one. Cool. Nice talking with you. i can see where his response would be too cogent for you to respond to.
easy to spew racist garbage while hiding behind a computer screen, eh?
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Quote: Originally Posted by Paul Itical
Quote: Originally Posted by William Joyce
Quote: Originally Posted by Article 15 So if we just get rid of all the black and brown people then crime will no longer be an issue in the US? Yep.
It's not Asians committing all the crime... in fact, they commit less crime than WHITES. What do you have to say about that? Really...the cambodians and laotians out here sure do commit alot of crimes. Yes, true. I should amend to northern Asians like northern Chinese, Koreans and Japanese. The farther south you go, the more jungle-like the environment, and the more like blacks or Hispanics they become.
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Quote: Originally Posted by jillian easy to spew racist garbage while hiding behind a computer screen, eh? Yeah, I hear ya. I sure wouldn't want to be exposed as you and then dropped in the middle of Ramallah.
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Quote: Originally Posted by Scotty I wanted to have a discussion on how to reduce minority crime and this guy wants to post a bunch of rap videos. All I wanted to do was discuss a way to make a safer country. If you are sincere about wanting a safer community then you must grow up intellectualy and stop blaming the victims of laws that were enacted to do exactly what you complain of.
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Quote: Originally Posted by Scotty I am white and I want to put forth my problem with African Americans. It is real simple they make up 12.9% of the population Comparisons between whites and African-Americans[/url] Comparisons between whites and African-Americans[/url]) according to this website. Based on current rates of first incarceration, an estimated 28% of black males will enter State or Federal prison during their lifetime, compared to 16% of Hispanic males and 4.4% of white males
Sixty-five percent of state prison inmates belonged to racial or ethnic minorities in 1991, up from 60% in 1986.
At current levels of incarceration newborn black males in this country have a greater than a 1 in 4 chance of going to prison during their lifetimes, while Hispanic males have a 1 in 6 chance, and white males have a 1 in 23 chance of serving time. NCJ 160092
The number of drug trafficking convictions in State courts more than doubled between 1986 and1990. Of persons convicted of drug trafficking in State courts in 1990--85% were male 42% were white, 57% black, and 1% of other races
Minorities commit too much crime in our country. What will we do about this. Are the minorities criminal in nature or can we educate them and put them on the right path?
Minorities , specifically african american males are to blame for our crime problem in the US. that is a nice argument but let me fill you in on a few facts. according to the census bureau in 2004 http://www.census.gov/population/soc...l-186/tab1.txt blacks number around 36 million while whites number about 195 million. now according a chart of illicit drug use at Results from the 2007 NSDUH: National Findings, SAMHSA, OAS blacks stand at 9.5% (or about 3.4 million) of their population while whites are at 8.2% (or about 8 million) and yet blacks and whites but in 2005 in state prisons black numbered 113,000 while whites numbered 72,300. Race and Prison | Drug War Facts which according to Bureau of Justice Statistics, Drugs and Crime Facts: Drug Use and Crime drug offenders account for 25 percent of state prisoners. now if we were to have parity which in blacks is about 3 percent in prison populations according to their respective drug use whites would have about between 240,000-300,000 thousand people in prison.
now all that tells me is that their is a sentencing disparity when it comes to the criminal justice system (if you look it up you will find similar discrepancies when it comes to other crimes) and i don't proclaim to be smart enough to solve all of this but i tell you what. you come in here with a plan to solve the problem of white people crime, and when you do i will come in here and tell you how we can solve black crime. till then please keep your thinly disguised racist monologues to yourself
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Quote: Originally Posted by JW Frogen Let's cut to the chase here.
A large section of the African American community not only commit a disproportionate amount of crime (mostly on each other) but they celebrate it in their music, they have made an art out of it.
Known as Hip Hop.
You don't have to take whiteys word for it, you can take theirs. whitey owns the big media company's and markets and sells the gangsta rap in favour of more conscientious hip-hip..company's like time Warner decide what gets signed and promoted ...the same company's that are the biggest prevours of pornography
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