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04-10-2008, 07:27 PM
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Phone Call Played at MLK-Confidant Trial
By MATTHEW BARAKAT – 1 day ago
LEESBURG, Va. (AP) — Jurors at the incest trial of civil rights leader James Bevel listened to an hour-long recording of a phone call in which he appeared to offer a convoluted defense of a sexual encounter with his daughter.
In the phone call between Bevel and his daughter, Bevel never made an explicit admission that he had sexual intercourse with his daughter. She testified Tuesday that he had sexual intercourse with her when she was 15 in the early 1990s after he pressured her by saying the sex would relieve him from demons that were sapping his strength.
Bevel, a top lieutenant to Martin Luther King Jr. who later was credited with helping conceive and organize the Million Man March, was arrested in June and charged with incest with his daughter while the two lived in Leesburg.
After his arrest, prosecutors said they received calls from across the country from women who said the were victimized by Bevel.
During the phone call heard Tuesday in Loudoun County Circuit Court, Bevel refers to "our interaction" and seems to blame the daughter at various times for weakness by refusing to resist him.
"You ain't made the decision not to (fornicate)," he told his daughter in vulgar language. "You can't know who you are until you decide not to (fornicate)."
At another point in the conversation, Bevel says the encounter increased his knowledge of how men and women interact, and improved his ability to teach others about proper marital relations.
"I want to thank you for contributing to the body of knowledge," Bevel tells her in the October 2005 conversation, which was recorded by the Leesburg Police Department.
Bevel says during the call that it's his duty to teach the world the difference between "emotional-sexual romance and constitutional intimacy."
During the call, Bevel constantly compares his actions with his daughter to his actions in the 1960s, when he was a leader in the drive to desegregate the South. Frequently when his daughter asks a question, he responds by asking her about his efforts during the 1965 march in Selma, or his confrontations with notorious Birmingham lawman Bull Connor.
In trial testimony Tuesday, the daughter and two of her half-sisters testified that the family confronted Bevel in 2004, concerned that a young daughter Bevel had fathered with a new wife in Selma might be at risk. At the meeting, Bevel said he did not dispute the facts of the daughter's allegation, according to the testimony.
On cross-examination, though, the sisters acknowledged that Bevel still claimed he was innocent despite his acknowledgment of the daughter's allegations. Bevel said the dispute stemmed from a difference in perceptions, according to the testimony.
In addition to the alleged intercourse when she was 15, the daughter has said that Bevel routinely molested her beginning at age 6.
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04-10-2008, 07:29 PM
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Rep Power: 65 | | | Do you note the similarities between the way he argues his case and the way ppl here argue??
I can pick out at least two and maybe more people who post regularly here who use the exact same tactics. Avoid the issue, deflect, deflect, deflect, intimidate, spaz out, deflect and avoid the issue.
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In the 1960s, Bevel was a leader in the Southern Christian Leadership Conference (SCLC)
Sad. These people just keep doing their best to make Christians look bad.
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Rep Power: 65 | | | "In 1992, he was vice presidential running mate to political maverick Lyndon LaRouche, who has a home in Loudoun County but at the time was in a federal prison for a tax conviction."
"Bevel, a top lieutenant to Martin Luther King Jr. who later was credited with helping conceive and organize the Million Man March, was arrested in June and charged with incest with his daughter while the two lived in Leesburg."
"During the call, Bevel constantly compares his actions with his daughter to his actions in the 1960s, when he was a leader in the drive to desegregate the South. Frequently when his daughter asks a question, he responds by asking her about his efforts during the 1965 march in Selma, or his confrontations with notorious Birmingham lawman Bull Connor."
Sounds like he's a bigger dem than he is a Christian.
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Poor Spot! He was tired of being thought of as stupid. "I'm gonna join Mensa," he said to myself, "and then I'll be legally permitted to wear the society's insignia--a tattoo of a little map pin pushed into my flesh--and then everyone'll know that I'm not dumb at all!"
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04-10-2008, 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by William Joyce  In action:
Phone Call Played at MLK-Confidant Trial
By MATTHEW BARAKAT – 1 day ago
LEESBURG, Va. (AP) — Jurors at the incest trial of civil rights leader James Bevel listened to an hour-long recording of a phone call in which he appeared to offer a convoluted defense of a sexual encounter with his daughter.
In the phone call between Bevel and his daughter, Bevel never made an explicit admission that he had sexual intercourse with his daughter. She testified Tuesday that he had sexual intercourse with her when she was 15 in the early 1990s after he pressured her by saying the sex would relieve him from demons that were sapping his strength.
Bevel, a top lieutenant to Martin Luther King Jr. who later was credited with helping conceive and organize the Million Man March, was arrested in June and charged with incest with his daughter while the two lived in Leesburg.
After his arrest, prosecutors said they received calls from across the country from women who said the were victimized by Bevel.
During the phone call heard Tuesday in Loudoun County Circuit Court, Bevel refers to "our interaction" and seems to blame the daughter at various times for weakness by refusing to resist him.
"You ain't made the decision not to (fornicate)," he told his daughter in vulgar language. "You can't know who you are until you decide not to (fornicate)."
At another point in the conversation, Bevel says the encounter increased his knowledge of how men and women interact, and improved his ability to teach others about proper marital relations.
"I want to thank you for contributing to the body of knowledge," Bevel tells her in the October 2005 conversation, which was recorded by the Leesburg Police Department.
Bevel says during the call that it's his duty to teach the world the difference between "emotional-sexual romance and constitutional intimacy."
During the call, Bevel constantly compares his actions with his daughter to his actions in the 1960s, when he was a leader in the drive to desegregate the South. Frequently when his daughter asks a question, he responds by asking her about his efforts during the 1965 march in Selma, or his confrontations with notorious Birmingham lawman Bull Connor.
In trial testimony Tuesday, the daughter and two of her half-sisters testified that the family confronted Bevel in 2004, concerned that a young daughter Bevel had fathered with a new wife in Selma might be at risk. At the meeting, Bevel said he did not dispute the facts of the daughter's allegation, according to the testimony.
On cross-examination, though, the sisters acknowledged that Bevel still claimed he was innocent despite his acknowledgment of the daughter's allegations. Bevel said the dispute stemmed from a difference in perceptions, according to the testimony.
In addition to the alleged intercourse when she was 15, the daughter has said that Bevel routinely molested her beginning at age 6.
The Associated Press generally does not identify the victims of sexual abuse. The daughter is one of at least 14 children Bevel has with several different women, according to her testimony on Monday.
In the 1960s, Bevel was a leader in the Southern Christian Leadership Conference (SCLC) and the Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee (SNCC), two of the stalwart organizations that led efforts to desegregate the South.
In 1992, he was vice presidential running mate to political maverick Lyndon LaRouche, who has a home in Loudoun County but at the time was in a federal prison for a tax conviction. | Okay, so Bevel's a scumbag.
The rest of your attempt to drag everyone he ever knew down with him is worthy of EOTS. Did he write this for you?
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Originally Posted by Ravir
In the 1960s, Bevel was a leader in the Southern Christian Leadership Conference (SCLC)
Sad. These people just keep doing their best to make Christians look bad.
| Kind of like leftwing Kool-Aid drinkers make liberals look bad.
Fact is, they only make Christians look bad to those of you who let people who obviously are not displaying anything taught as Christian virtue dictate what you think a "Christian" is. It's much worse when it's willful and purposeful.
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04-11-2008, 05:49 AM
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Originally Posted by GunnyL Kind of like leftwing Kool-Aid drinkers make liberals look bad.
Fact is, they only make Christians look bad to those of you who let people who obviously are not displaying anything taught as Christian virtue dictate what you think a "Christian" is. It's much worse when it's willful and purposeful. | Like the games SHogun plays? Ravir and he should get along fine.
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04-11-2008, 05:53 AM
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Originally Posted by GunnyL Fact is, they only make Christians look bad to those of you who let people who obviously are not displaying anything taught as Christian virtue dictate what you think a "Christian" is. It's much worse when it's willful and purposeful. | I agree that his behavior shouldn't reflect on Christians, but why should it reflect on the civil rights movement? I am not aware that it involved anything having to do with incest. |
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Originally Posted by ReillyT I agree that his behavior shouldn't reflect on Christians, but why should it reflect on the civil rights movement? I am not aware that it involved anything having to do with incest. | That would be GunnyL's point exactly.
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Originally Posted by RetiredGySgt That would be GunnyL's point exactly. | Then I agree with his point. |
04-11-2008, 06:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Ravir
In the 1960s, Bevel was a leader in the Southern Christian Leadership Conference (SCLC)
Sad. These people just keep doing their best to make Christians look bad.
| Er, I think you're missing his most essential characteristic, which is his race. Blacks have sex with anything that moves. That's why Africa is exploding in population, why the inner cities are baby factories despite very little money to pay for them, why AIDS is sky-high in D.C. and Detroit at the same rates as African countries, and why a "reverend" would fuck his daughter. Weird to us, all explained by evolution.
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Originally Posted by GunnyL
Fact is, they only make Christians look bad to those of you who let people who obviously are not displaying anything taught as Christian virtue dictate what you think a "Christian" is. It's much worse when it's willful and purposeful.
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That was my point. I should have put  then maybe it wouldn't have gone over your head.  |
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Originally Posted by William Joyce Er, I think you're missing his most essential characteristic, which is his race. Blacks have sex with anything that moves. That's why Africa is exploding in population, why the inner cities are baby factories despite very little money to pay for them, why AIDS is sky-high in D.C. and Detroit at the same rates as African countries, and why a "reverend" would fuck his daughter. Weird to us, all explained by evolution. | Funny. You do realize that white people are more likely to be pedos, right? |
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Originally Posted by Ravir Funny. You do realize that white people are more likely to be pedos, right? | And serial killers.....
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