Here's Why The Media Denies it Was Terrorism

Not terrorism, Just plain incompetence on the part of US Army security and you people think you're safe. What a joke..

Dr. Smith, You are reading too much into My Remarks, and assuming too much of what You You think My motives are. You are way off base. Your Posts are too long. I thought I did a fairly good job covering the basic flow, considering that there seems to be little information available, such as interviews with Coworkers of the Shooter. Maybe the reasons for so little information available is to protect the Investigation. What ever the reason is, there isn't much to go on in relation to Obama at this time. That said He still takes the hit being CIC. Bush also takes the hit, for what He missed.

I have said this many times over. You seem to miss it. I give You My perspective, which You term Spin. That Only holds True if Your definition of Spin is Anytime Anybody gives a Personal Perspective including You. You also presume, and are poor at it.

The way I perceive things, is the Right is more apt to follow the Rule of Law, Safeguard, Conserve, where as the Left is usually concerned about the exception and the What If Factor, which can also be helpful, yet factoring in incompetence, dangerous to the Society as a whole.
Moral Absolutism V.S. Moral Relativism. The Struggle is old, not new. Each camp has pluses and minuses. Abandon Reason and It turns into a Shit Storm.



If political correctness was the reason for not reporting these "red flags" then based on when they occured who was president and who should be blamed since the "red flags" were ignored on their watch?

If there were red flags that were ignored under both administrations, both have a share in the blame. Is this clear enough for You yet? I hold to My claim on Obama, I hold to My Claim on Bush. Your charge is absurd. The Shooting was on Obama's watch, The details that led up to it do not seem to be available to the Public. That is not a free pass, but a stay, on what level, current PC contributed. You can accept it at face value or not.

So I have to ask, do you hold W accountable for 9/11 since it happened on his watch?? Or are you one of the many hypocritical righties who blamed clinton and gave W a pass??


In Part Yes, He takes a Hit, for Not seeing any of it coming. I believe there were some that knew something was up, yet did not adequately prepare. Did Anyone suspect that it would be Hijacked Planes? I don't know. Bush did respond Admirably, and helped establish much of the security Advancements of today. The Coast Guard Response during Katrina, would not have been what it was, had not Homeland Security built It up. Part of Leadership is how You take the Hit. Part of Leadership is What You learn and improve on because of the experience of the Hit. Clinton bears responsibility for what Passed on His Watch, Good and Bad. You throw stones Wildly.

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Are people STILL in this thread claiming the media ever denied it was terrorism?

lol

I don't know?
Do You?
Where do the Networks stand on it?
What is the DNC Position?
Do the ranks of Democrats that Post in this Community think so?

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not really but I can see why you would wish to spin it that way. the topic of this thread was to blame obama for the PC attitude that allowed this to happen that argument was PROVEN to be less than honest. Then you tried to change the subject to the incident happened on his watch so it's his fault which has NOTHING to do with the actual topic.

LOL and yet YOU are the one that cut an pasted entire articles into your posts. LOL have you read some of your posts which appear to be A LOT longer than mine? my responses have to be longwinded to respond to and counter all of your long winded spin.

and yet you failed miserably to answer the FOUR simple questions that I asked. Imagine that.

it's funny how the right refused to see it this way when W was actually president LOL

so now you are trying to read into my statements?? I thought you said that was wrong?? Your perspective is one of avoidance and dishonesty. That makes it spin. when you tried to blame obama for the PC attitude that existed BEFORE he was president was as dishonest as one could get.

and that is where you problem begins. your perception is based on partisan spin and is hardly based on fact. prime example look at what the right said about perjury back when they wrongly accused clinton of it and then compare it to the comments the right made about perjury when scooter libby was actually convicted of it. So how is that again about how "the right is more apt to follow the rule of law?" LOL



So you agree that obama is NOT to blame for the PC attitude that allowed this to happen since it began BEFORE he was even president?? After all that was the false claim made in this thread and since red flags were ignored before obama took office, his "new attitude" could not have contributed to instances that accorded BEFORE he was even president. that is a FACT that you can't spin.

Way to half ass it. According to your past remarks before you shifted to partially blaming W, obama takes the hit because he is CIC but for bush you give a litany of excuses and spin. LOL oh you mean the security advancements that still impede communications between departments and organizations?? Like the ones that have been mentioned in hasan's case?? LOL yeah that is something to brag about.

I think it's hilarious how you revise history and try to claim that how W responded to katrina was good. LOL let's see on 9/11 after being told the nation is under attack he sits in his chair, frozen in place and then when katrina hit and the aftermath how long was it BEFORE the W responded and actually started trying to help?? So what did he learn again??

It is interesting that the right wing is looking at the United States Military is supporting terrorists within their own ranks.

You are a Jackass, I don't blame You personally, but Those that programed You. You are real big at adding to, taking away, misapplying, and misinterpreting. You don't actually need anyone else, for your dialog, just play off Yourself when you are not playing with yourself.

Dr. Seuss: the topic of this thread was to blame obama for the PC attitude that allowed this to happen that argument was PROVEN to be less than honest.


Yep and it has touched on so much more. With or without Your permission or consent Jackass. You are big on the Media Blackouts too Fuck Head.


Dr.Seuss: Then you tried to change the subject to the incident happened on his watch so it's his fault which has NOTHING to do with the actual topic.

I did not change the Subject, You did, internally, in Your mind. You are a Liar and a Prick, Dr. Seuss. You keep making false accusations and expanding on them. By your standards, when applied to You, You fail. The DNC is the Kingdom of PC Talking Points, Your Clan cannot last a day without telling other People what to do, say, and think, Dip Shit. How much did Obama pay for His Senate Seat and who did He bid against, Dick Weed?


DR. Seuss: LOL and yet YOU are the one that cut an pasted entire articles into your posts. LOL have you read some of your posts which appear to be A LOT longer than mine?

Only because of the nature of the games Your Fuck Buddy Curve Light was playing, Bitch. Arguing with Half wits like You, Sky Writing is acceptable, so are finger paintings. I will continue to Post on My terms, not yours.


Dr. Seuss: and yet you failed miserably to answer the FOUR simple questions that I asked. Imagine that.

Your 4 Questions have been answered. You do not have the equipment to process, that is your abysmal failure. You are intellectually dishonest, and have no morals.



Dr.Seuss: it's funny how the right refused to see it this way when W was actually president LOL

Maybe You should back that claim. Bush lost much support from the Right, though not for Your Bullshit reasons.

Dr Seuss: so now you are trying to read into my statements?? I thought you said that was wrong?? Your perspective is one of avoidance and dishonesty. That makes it spin. when you tried to blame obama for the PC attitude that existed BEFORE he was president was as dishonest as one could get.

I am exposing You for what You are, a Partisan Kool-aid Drinking hack. I didn't say that it is wrong to probe, Urinal breath, I said You were bad at it, off track, got off on the wrong floor. You think that I avoid You, I answer every Post I'm aware of. You don't like my responses, News Flash, I don't like Yours either.

I know You are mentally slow so I will reemphasize Obama, Man From Kenya is Responsible For what Has happened under His Watch. Try not to Piss Yourself. You think there were no Red Flags for the last nine months?
Keep telling Your self Change, change, change, eat brains good, change. Parasite.

Dr Seuss: and that is where you problem begins. your perception is based on partisan spin and is hardly based on fact. prime example look at what the right said about perjury back when they wrongly accused clinton of it and then compare it to the comments the right made about perjury when scooter libby was actually convicted of it. So how is that again about how "the right is more apt to follow the rule of law?" LOL

You are insane. You are destroying the Country insane. Clinton was disbarred. He was impeached. More than a few Women stood up and claimed He Assaulted Them. That part of His Life was an Embarrassment to The Nation.
Scooter Libby convicted by a Kangaroo Court, based on an Investigation The Investigator knew to be false early into the investigation. Don't let that stop Your End Justifies The Means Witch Hunt Bullshit, Scum Bag. You are low.


Dr.Seuss: So you agree that obama is NOT to blame for the PC attitude that allowed this to happen since it began BEFORE he was even president?? After all that was the false claim made in this thread and since red flags were ignored before obama took office, his "new attitude" could not have contributed to instances that accorded BEFORE he was even president. that is a FACT that you can't spin

Obama is responsible for what He participated in before During and After, Just like Everyone Else, Moron. You are so fucking dense.


Dr.Seuss:Way to half ass it. According to your past remarks before you shifted to partially blaming W, obama takes the hit because he is CIC but for bush you give a litany of excuses and spin. LOL oh you mean the security advancements that still impede communications between departments and organizations?? Like the ones that have been mentioned in hasan's case?? LOL yeah that is something to brag about.

Each is held accountable , for Their Part, Each has or had the ability to redeem. It's not spin , it's not excuses. If You had an Indian name it Would be "Shit on Broken Record". Yes I mean Improvements, It's a Big Government, Change is Slow and hard. O'bama should try putting in a few hours.


DR. Seuss: I think it's hilarious how you revise history and try to claim that how W responded to katrina was good. LOL let's see on 9/11 after being told the nation is under attack he sits in his chair, frozen in place and then when katrina hit and the aftermath how long was it BEFORE the W responded and actually started trying to help?? So what did he learn again??

Bush was a lot more lenient with The Governor and The Mayor than I would have been. Fuck You for contributing to the fallacy of what went wrong with Katrina. The Corruption was monumental, A DNC Icon. Bumbling Fools Play Government. People Die Needlessly, Just because they chose to listen to Fools.

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You might want to work on that statement.

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Published in the New York Post on November 16, 2009

As he flew to Asia on Saturday, President Obama told the media in Alaska that he opposes a congressional investigation into the Fort Hood massacre, saying that we must "resist the temptation to turn this tragic event into political theater." Yet, even as he was posturing against political theatrics, he had just decided that the prosecution of 9/11 mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed would proceed on the greatest of public stages -- New York City.



With the strict evidentiary rules in force in federal civilian courts, it is easy to see how the prosecution of Mohammed could morph into an indictment of the Bush administration's interrogation techniques and waterboarding. As in rape trials, the magnitude of the underlying crime (masterminding the 9/11 attacks) might well be lost as the defense puts the victim (in this case, the government) on trial.

It is not political theater itself to which Obama objects -- but theater that highlights issues that liberals would rather forget. He is quite content to let the Mohammed trial become the theater of the left. Perhaps even eager.

Obama and his handlers know that the key to building favorable ratings is to control the agenda. And the more the national discussion centers on national security and terrorism, the more Republicans gain. So the Fort Hood terror attack comes at an awful time for an administration trying to turn the nation's attention away from the terrorist threat.

As soon as the killing spree was over, Obama hastened to call it "an act of violence" -- obscuring the obvious fact that it was the most serious terror attack on US soil since 9/11. And, as evidence mounts that the FBI was on to Major Nidal Malik Hasan for years, the president is doing his best to stop Congress from finding out why these warnings went unheeded.

Even as Rep. Peter Hoekstra (R-Mich.), the ranking Republican on the House Intelligence Committee confirmed that the government knew of 10 to 20 e-mails between Hasan and a radical imam in Yemen -- who was urging the killing of American troops -- starting last December, Obama hastened to urge Congress to refrain from investigating why the danger signs were ignored.

The Obama administration has a clear agenda here:

1) Stop people from focusing in how his administration permitted the worst domestic terror attack in eight years.

2) Avoid a national airing of how liberal policies -- restraints on the intelligence community, political correctness in the armed forces -- might have inhibited the military from reining in Hasan.

3) Re-ignite a firestorm on the left and abroad against the aggressive anti-terror policies of the Bush administration.

Making all this particularly important for Obama are his other political needs.

As he likely decides to send more troops to Afghanistan and eyes abandoning the "public option" to secure Senate passage of his health-care plan, Obama has to rebuild his credibility on the left. A public circus that focuses on waterboarding and interrogations could be just what he wants and needs.

CHANGING THE SUBJECT: WHY O NIXED FT. HOOD PROBE at DickMorris.com

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The Military should be put on trial for allowing this crazy man to be in the forces. Everyone who came in contact with this man knew he was crazy. Political correctness rules the USA. How sad.............

It amazes me that because of "Political Correctness" he was permitted to buy a gun

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Put the car in (D) to drive out of the ditch and put the car in (R) to go back into the ditch. - Obama

Im sure even people of such questionable intelligence, like yourself, can buy a gun. Can you even spell 2nd Amendment?

It Truly scares Me when You make sense.

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How typical that you have to attack me personally after losing the original argument that you even tried to spin as you now try to spin a new one.

and yet not really. you wished to blame obama and even after the inititial aregument was discredited you continued to try and claim that he was still at fault for an attitude that began BEFORE he was president. YOU LOSE.


LOL so you are now DISHONESTLY trying to argue that blaming obama for the instance in your NEW argument is the same as blaming him for the attitude that allowed it to happen?? in case you missed it there is a HUGE difference.


WOW so aaprently you can't deal with the fact that you accuse me of being longwinded because I respond to and counter all of the dishoenst spin on your longwinded posts. LOL


Actually NO you answered two and then tried to spin and defend W as you made lame excuses for him and then LIED about how "well" he responded to katrina.


So are you claiming that the right did NOT try to blame clinton?? Furthermore the right didn't curt and run from w until they realized that he was going to drag them down in the 08 election. only then did they try oh so desperately to seperate themselves from him.

Your hypocrisy has been exposed. you tried to attack me claiming i was reading into your statements and then you do exactly what you accused me of doing. way to go hypocrite. LOL the sad thing is that you are defending my argument against the original claim of this thread which was to blame obama for something that happened BEFORE his watch. You lose AGAIN. LOL

Nice spin however, only ONE of the two, clinton and libby, were actualyl CONVICTED OF PERJURY and that was libby. You hypocrites once called that a high crime and then one of your own was convicted of it and then they, just like you, flip flopped and made lame excuses for libby as you still condemn clinton despite the FACT that he did NOT commit perjury.

You can't even answer a simple question honestly. LOL


yeah it is spin and excuses because rightie still choose to balme clinton for 9/11 despite the fact that it happened on W's watch. Furthermore your earlier argument was that if it happened on their watch it is their responsibility and yet for W you make lame excuses. how typically dishonest and hypocrtiical of you.


Fallacy?? Isn't that you tried to present as you dishonestly tried to prop W up for his INactions in response to katrina?? It is funny how your usual response to a question is to attack as you fail to provide anything of substance to substantiate your arguments. LOL

Face it, you lost this entire argument and made yourself look foolish and dishonest as you showed how you hold democrats to a different and higher standard than you do republicans.

How typical that you have to attack me personally after losing the original argument that you even tried to spin as you now try to spin a new one.

Only in Your Head. My argument remains the same otherwise, outside of your head. You lie and disrespect Me, so I attack You.
I win the Original argument. You lose. Obama remains at fault for what happened under His watch. Your Party remains at fault for Everything Your Failed logic did to contribute to the event. YOU LOSE.


and yet not really. you wished to blame obama and even after the inititial aregument was discredited you continued to try and claim that he was still at fault for an attitude that began BEFORE he was president. YOU LOSE.

I still do. The initial argument is not discredited. He remains responsible for His part, Congress for Theirs. Why You are so confused is beyond Me. You are so big on labels and accusations. What comes around goes around. All these One Way Streets You play on be it the Global Warming Hoax and Cover Up. The Reversal in Afghanistan, the Double Standard on Cell Phone Monitoring, The Productions You All like to make out of Foot Notes, Mountains out of Mole Hill's, while You Plant the seeds of Dictatorship. YOU LOSE.


LOL so you are now DISHONESTLY trying to argue that blaming obama for the instance in your NEW argument is the same as blaming him for the attitude that allowed it to happen?? in case you missed it there is a HUGE difference.

Did Obama actually play a role in National Politics other than Voting Present, on so many Bills? Is that why You are confused? All of the People around Him, that Have done so much harm to the Republic, You know, His Friends, that He Appointed, that would not otherwise be able to secure a Job delivering Mail, People that would otherwise fail the background check, for any Federal Job, now making Major policy decisions. They contributed to the climate. So did He. So do You. YOU LOSE.


WOW so aaprently you can't deal with the fact that you accuse me of being longwinded because I respond to and counter all of the dishoenst spin on your longwinded posts. LOL

It's not that I find You Long Winded as Much as the Size of These Posts. I'm adapting fine Thank you. Dishonest Spin from the Left needs Your attention, there's too much embarrassment and denial, and finger pointing, it doesn't work. My Perspective isn't Spin. It's how I see You and whats happening. YOU LOSE.


Actually NO you answered two and then tried to spin and defend W as you made lame excuses for him and then LIED about how "well" he responded to katrina.

No I Criticized Bush For His Faults and Credited Him for His Merits. If You are still in denial of the parts played by the Governor of Louisiana and the Mayor of New Orleans You have no credibility, and the Lives lost because of the choices They made and Their Gross Incompetence, I Truly feel Sorry for You. Thank God The Coast Guard was there to do what It did.


So are you claiming that the right did NOT try to blame clinton?? Furthermore the right didn't curt and run from w until they realized that he was going to drag them down in the 08 election. only then did they try oh so desperately to seperate themselves from him.

Blame Clinton for what? There is so much to choose from. My favorite was Firing Cruise Missiles at a Terrorist Camp and then tipping them off in time to evacuate. I did not run from Bush, He finished His term hiding under His bed from the press and giving the DNC everything they could steal. He caved. The RINO'S distanced Themselves from Bush. McCain and Graham, You can claim anytime. YOU LOSE.


Your hypocrisy has been exposed. you tried to attack me claiming i was reading into your statements and then you do exactly what you accused me of doing. way to go hypocrite. LOL the sad thing is that you are defending my argument against the original claim of this thread which was to blame obama for something that happened BEFORE his watch. You lose AGAIN. LOL

You still can't comprehend that it was not Your reading into my language that I have a problem with. It is Your Skill Level. You Suck at it. I blame him and His Gang, for Every finger Print, Every plot that they had any part in contributing to the pitiful state it is now. Look at what You do to everything You touch. You are the Crisis. Everything You do contributes to making things worse. YOU LOSE.


Nice spin however, only ONE of the two, clinton and libby, were actualyl CONVICTED OF PERJURY and that was libby. You hypocrites once called that a high crime and then one of your own was convicted of it and then they, just like you, flip flopped and made lame excuses for libby as you still condemn clinton despite the FACT that he did NOT commit perjury.
What happened here? He remembered something from years back that another witness remembered differently, and the other persons word was taken over His, with no other evidence? This interview done in an investigation that the Prosecutor already knew the identity of the leak? Like this wasn't a kangaroo court? Valerie Plame wasn't even Covert. Yet it's totally okay when You Fuck Heads out real Covert Agents because the Law doesn't apply to You? Fucking Hypocrite. YOU LOSE.


You can't even answer a simple question honestly. LOL

After seeing His Obstruction in relation to ACORN, Global Warming Myth, Afghanistan, Totalitarian Health Care, I hold Him Totally responsible, for His Part, For His Part in The Machine, For The Machines part. I don't trust Him for the time of day. I'm counting My change without fail. YOU LOSE.


yeah it is spin and excuses because rightie still choose to balme clinton for 9/11 despite the fact that it happened on W's watch. Furthermore your earlier argument was that if it happened on their watch it is their responsibility and yet for W you make lame excuses. how typically dishonest and hypocrtiical of you.

Clinton is responsible for His Part, Just as Bush is, Just as Obama is. No Special Entitlements, No Exemptions, No Partiality, No magic wands to make it go away. No lame excuses, just pointing out Redeeming Elements. There's good and bad there. Same with Clinton. Everything that He did that Tilted Right, that You Hated, I Liked. YOU LOSE.


Fallacy?? Isn't that you tried to present as you dishonestly tried to prop W up for his INactions in response to katrina?? It is funny how your usual response to a question is to attack as you fail to provide anything of substance to substantiate your arguments. LOL
Face it, you lost this entire argument and made yourself look foolish and dishonest as you showed how you hold democrats to a different and higher standard than you do republicans.


You have Kool-Aid Poisoning. More to follow.

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