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Obama Agrees With Bush

Moves to keep detainees indefinitely...
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Obama WH adopts Bush indefinite-detention position


Remember when the Left scoffed at the argument from George W. Bush that claimed the authorization to use military force allowed the executive branch to hold captured terrorists indefinitely, without criminal trial? Bush’s opponents screamed about human rights and due process, and claimed that Bush had abused his power. Those critics included Barack Obama, who regularly castigated the Bush administration for its failure to provide his idea of due process to detainees at Guantanamo Bay and elsewhere, as well as blasting Bush for his argument that he didn’t require Congress to act to maintain that power.
Now? Change you can believe in, baby:

The Obama administration has decided not to seek new legislation from Congress authorizing the indefinite detention of about 50 terrorism suspects being held without charges at at Guantánamo Bay, Cuba, officials said Wednesday.
Instead, the administration will continue to hold the detainees without bringing them to trial based on the power it says it has under the Congressional resolution passed after the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, authorizing the president to use force against forces of Al Qaeda and the Taliban.

In concluding that it does not need specific permission from Congress to hold detainees without charges, the Obama administration is adopting one of the arguments advanced by the Bush administration in years of debates about detention policies.
But President Obama’s advisers are not embracing the more disputed Bush contention that the president has inherent power under the Constitution to detain terrorism suspects indefinitely regardless of Congress.
The Justice Department said in a statement Wednesday night that “the administration would rely on authority already provided by Congress” under the use of force resolution. “The administration is not currently seeking additional authorization,” the statement said.

This is known as a distinction without a difference. If the White House doesn’t see the need to get Congressional authorization for continued indefinite detention, then it means that the White House believes it has that power under the Constitution, whence it derives all authority. They may not want to say it out loud, but their actions speak volumes. Obama has adopted the Bush position in its entirety.


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Old 09-24-2009, 10:40 PM
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this makes me mad.

it made me mad when the "get out of gitmo" thing was morphed to let's move them to bagram.

fuck obama if he keeps these fascists tools at his disposal
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obama = bush's third term which has been known a while
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This really only adds to the list of things that make him not a Liberal. But ignorant Republicans like you Sinatra will continue to call him one.
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This is the crap from Obama that pisses me off.
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This is the crap from Obama that pisses me off.
And it's only the newest thing added to the list. If he's a Liberal, I'm the Pope.
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This is the crap from Obama that pisses me off.
And it's only the newest thing added to the list. If he's a Liberal, I'm the Pope.
how many times do you have to be told, Bush wasnt a conservative
these things pissed of the conservatives
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even from hot air,

this makes me mad.

it made me mad when the "get out of gitmo" thing was morphed to let's move them to bagram.

fuck obama if he keeps these fascists tools at his disposal
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This really only adds to the list of things that make him not a Liberal. But ignorant Republicans like you Sinatra will continue to call him one.
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Obama has two paths going: First is what he inherited from the Bush administration. He has voted to continue virtually all of it. So much for "change."
Second is what he is doing on his own, like healthcare and tax and trade. IF he gets those passed (and its a big if) it will be ruinous to the economy, leading to stagflation and unemployment. So much for "hope."
Nope, this is a one termer. Whether he's replaced by the Republican or Democrat I can't say yet.
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