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07-08-2009, 12:56 PM
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Rep Power: 173 | | | This doesn't surprise me as the first stimulus package under the Obama administration basically went to pay off his union allies. Most of the money won't be shelled out until 2010 and later. This is the same stimulus package that had to be voted on so quickly without even reading it because there was such a "crisis." WTF?
Could the reason be that he doesn't want all the debt on the books before his "Cap & Trade", and "Healthcare Reform," gets pushed through? | 
07-08-2009, 01:56 PM
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Rep Power: 402 | | Now they are looking for a '2nd' stimulus, I mean the first one has done so much! Now we keep hearing that those 'shovel ready' projects weren't quite as ready as claimed. So where did they spend what they did? Bailing out failing states Links at site: James Pethokoukis » Blog Archive » Maybe this is why the stimulus isn’t creating tons of jobs yet | Blogs | Quote: July 8th, 2009
Maybe this is why the stimulus isn’t creating tons of jobs yet
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Posted by: James Pethokoukis
Tags: Uncategorized, Obamanomics, stimulus
Here is what the Government Accounting Office is saying about the progress of stimulus spending:
Across the United States, as of June 19, 2009, Treasury had outlayed about $29 billion of the estimated $49 billion in Recovery Act funds projected for use in states and localities in fiscal year 2009.
And how is that $29 billion being spent? Like this (hint, not on infrastructure projects): 
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07-08-2009, 02:38 PM
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Rep Power: 143 | | | NJ is getting 17 billion and only 9 percent is for "infrastructure and energy" Haven't seen one friggin road project going on despite the fact that a majority if our bridges are falling down. I don't know anyone that would have a problem with the bridges being fixed. But that's not what they plan to do with the money. We were lied to. | 
07-08-2009, 08:47 PM
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Rep Power: 0 | | Casting blame on the dead party is easy. They did nothing to protect the safegards in our financial markets. Then they offered no plan to correct the situation, again doing nothing. Nobody knows what the stimulus plan is going to do precisely, but at least Democrats met with experts, and came up with a reasonable plan.
Republicans had no plan, and did nothing. Now the Repubs sit in their offices taking pot shots at the guy who tried to do something! It is time for some hangings, Republicans are UnAmerican.
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07-08-2009, 09:21 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted by Derek_Plumber
Casting blame on the dead party is easy. They did nothing to protect the safegards in our financial markets. Then they offered no plan to correct the situation, again doing nothing. Nobody knows what the stimulus plan is going to do precisely, but at least Democrats met with experts, and came up with a reasonable plan.
Republicans had no plan, and did nothing. Now the Repubs sit in their offices taking pot shots at the guy who tried to do something! It is time for some hangings, Republicans are UnAmerican. that is a complete LIE
but then thats all you ever do | 
07-08-2009, 09:23 PM
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Rep Power: 252 | | | Wait a minute....Those two bitched and moaned all during their campaign run about "the worst economy since the Depression", yet still "misread" how bad it was???
Someone please make sense out of that. | 
07-08-2009, 09:25 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted by Dude Wait a minute....Those two bitched and moaned all during their campaign run about "the worst economy since the Depression", yet still "misread" how bad it was???
Someone please make sense out of that. That's easy. It was worse than they thought it was..
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07-08-2009, 09:27 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted by Derek_Plumber Casting blame on the dead party is easy. They did nothing to protect the safegards in our financial markets. Then they offered no plan to correct the situation, again doing nothing. Nobody knows what the stimulus plan is going to do precisely, but at least Democrats met with experts, and came up with a reasonable plan.
Republicans had no plan, and did nothing. Now the Repubs sit in their offices taking pot shots at the guy who tried to do something! It is time for some hangings, Republicans are UnAmerican. You need to get over this partisan shit son, the Dems are just as bad as the GoP, and this escalating mess is 100% IN THEIR LAP, because they have controlled ALL of the gov the last half year, and 2/3 of it the previous 2 years.
Trying to blame chimp and the GoP won't help you explain to people why Obama is the bigest fuckup the whitehouse ever seen, and that INCLUDES captain chimptastic.
So far all you have posted is lame assed attempts to shift blame and make this seem as if its politics as usual, well boy, it sin't.
The country is hurting big time and the current admin is making things worse, not better. | 
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Quote: Originally Posted by Dr Grump
Quote: Originally Posted by Dude Wait a minute....Those two bitched and moaned all during their campaign run about "the worst economy since the Depression", yet still "misread" how bad it was???
Someone please make sense out of that. That's easy. It was worse than they thought it was.. So why are they doing shit to make it worse?
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Quote: Originally Posted by Dr Grump
Quote: Originally Posted by Dude Wait a minute....Those two bitched and moaned all during their campaign run about "the worst economy since the Depression", yet still "misread" how bad it was???
Someone please make sense out of that. That's easy. It was worse than they thought it was.. That would require thinking in the first place. | 
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Quote: Originally Posted by Dr.House
Quote: Originally Posted by Dr Grump
Quote: Originally Posted by Dude Wait a minute....Those two bitched and moaned all during their campaign run about "the worst economy since the Depression", yet still "misread" how bad it was???
Someone please make sense out of that. That's easy. It was worse than they thought it was.. So why are they doing shit to make it worse? Are they?
How?
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07-08-2009, 09:34 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted by Dr Grump
Quote: Originally Posted by Dr.House
Quote: Originally Posted by Dr Grump
That's easy. It was worse than they thought it was.. So why are they doing shit to make it worse? Are they?
How? Talk about easy....
If the "stimulus" spending was of such a high priority, why was most of it back-loaded to late 2009 and early 2010 (oddly enough, an election cycle)?? | 
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Quote: Originally Posted by Dr Grump
Quote: Originally Posted by Dude Wait a minute....Those two bitched and moaned all during their campaign run about "the worst economy since the Depression", yet still "misread" how bad it was???
Someone please make sense out of that. That's easy. It was worse than they thought it was.. that doesnt make sense
how can it already be "the worst since the great depression"(it wasnt, they were lying)
yet be worse than they though it was | 
07-08-2009, 09:35 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted by Dude
Quote: Originally Posted by Dr Grump
Quote: Originally Posted by Dr.House So why are they doing shit to make it worse? Are they?
How? Talk about easy....
If the "stimulus" spending was of such a high priority, why was most of it back-loaded to late 2009 and early 2010 (oddly enough, an election cycle)?? You guys are apparently the ones with all the answers, why don't you tell me..
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07-08-2009, 09:38 PM
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Rep Power: 252 | | | Lame dodge.
What if a guy with an (R) by his name had back-loaded a supposed "stimulus" spending bill to a date in time when there were political campaigns going on??
I'll tell you what would happen....The guys with the (D) by their names would be shitting their pants and crying foul.
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