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07-01-2009, 08:38 AM
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Come on people, wake up! Social Security audit finds dead people getting checks | McClatchy | 
07-01-2009, 08:57 AM
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Rep Power: 189 | | | it's good the audit found this....and good they are revising their methods of ensuring one is dead or not dead....
I am certain there are many people cheating us, by continuing to receive their mother's or father's SS check and cashing them, even after death.
Even in a private system, mistakes like such would happen...human error and thieves, just can't ever be eradicated completely k-man. | 
07-01-2009, 09:21 AM
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That sure is reason not to give government power. What would we do with an organization that actually fixes its mistakes? | 
07-01-2009, 09:38 AM
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Quote: Originally Posted by Care4all it's good the audit found this....and good they are revising their methods of ensuring one is dead or not dead....
I am certain there are many people cheating us, by continuing to receive their mother's or father's SS check and cashing them, even after death.
Even in a private system, mistakes like such would happen...human error and thieves, just can't ever be eradicated completely k-man.
I agree mistakes are going to happen... whether it's private companies or the government... the issue is with people who think the government can do it better... without private companies competing what is the government's incentive to make things better?
Could you imagaine if Social Security had a competitor????? Either it would get better or go out of business... it's that simple... without competition there is no reason for the people running the program to improve it.... | 
07-01-2009, 09:42 AM
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Quote: Originally Posted by KMAN
Quote: Originally Posted by Care4all it's good the audit found this....and good they are revising their methods of ensuring one is dead or not dead....
I am certain there are many people cheating us, by continuing to receive their mother's or father's SS check and cashing them, even after death.
Even in a private system, mistakes like such would happen...human error and thieves, just can't ever be eradicated completely k-man.
I agree mistakes are going to happen... whether it's private companies or the government... the issue is with people who think the government can do it better... without private companies competing what is the government's incentive to make things better?
Could you imagaine if Social Security had a competitor????? Either it would get better or go out of business... it's that simple... without competition there is no reason for the people running the program to improve it.... Like healthcare is getting so much better because of the competition, right?
Or maybe how the financial system is so great with all that competition, right? | 
07-01-2009, 10:05 AM
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Quote: Originally Posted by Nik
Quote: Originally Posted by KMAN
Quote: Originally Posted by Care4all it's good the audit found this....and good they are revising their methods of ensuring one is dead or not dead....
I am certain there are many people cheating us, by continuing to receive their mother's or father's SS check and cashing them, even after death.
Even in a private system, mistakes like such would happen...human error and thieves, just can't ever be eradicated completely k-man.
I agree mistakes are going to happen... whether it's private companies or the government... the issue is with people who think the government can do it better... without private companies competing what is the government's incentive to make things better?
Could you imagaine if Social Security had a competitor????? Either it would get better or go out of business... it's that simple... without competition there is no reason for the people running the program to improve it.... Like healthcare is getting so much better because of the competition, right?
Or maybe how the financial system is so great with all that competition, right? Why are you so in bed with the government being in charge of everything? Seriously, you need help. | 
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Rep Power: 195 | | Willow knows.. they dug up the dead to vote, they sent stimulus checks to a dead man who had never ever been in the system,, so why wouldn't they send checks to dead people? it's all fraud. that's what democwats are built on fraud! Think Conyers! didn't she just resign? for fraud? | 
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Quote: Originally Posted by WillowTree Willow knows.. they dug up the dead to vote, they sent stimulus checks to a dead man who had never ever been in the system,, so why wouldn't they send checks to dead people? it's all fraud. that's what democwats are built on fraud! Think Conyers! didn't she just resign? for fraud?  There is fraud in the private sector too, and I would venture to say it far surpasses the fraud found in government. That is not to say, we should turn everything over to the government, but there is a place where government can be just as effective if not moreso than the private sector. The difficult part is figuring out where government is more effective and where not. It would be easy if everything was black and white. Unfortunately, too many here believe it is, either for one side or the other. | 
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Quote: Originally Posted by auditor0007
Quote: Originally Posted by WillowTree Willow knows.. they dug up the dead to vote, they sent stimulus checks to a dead man who had never ever been in the system,, so why wouldn't they send checks to dead people? it's all fraud. that's what democwats are built on fraud! Think Conyers! didn't she just resign? for fraud?  There is fraud in the private sector too, and I would venture to say it far surpasses the fraud found in government. That is not to say, we should turn everything over to the government, but there is a place where government can be just as effective if not moreso than the private sector. The difficult part is figuring out where government is more effective and where not. It would be easy if everything was black and white. Unfortunately, too many here believe it is, either for one side or the other. I think it's more about competition, the government doesn't have any, simple as that. There needs to be a free market, and government should only be doing what it was originally intended to do. It's gotten too far out of hand. | 
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Quote: Originally Posted by Newby
Quote: Originally Posted by Nik
Quote: Originally Posted by KMAN
I agree mistakes are going to happen... whether it's private companies or the government... the issue is with people who think the government can do it better... without private companies competing what is the government's incentive to make things better?
Could you imagaine if Social Security had a competitor????? Either it would get better or go out of business... it's that simple... without competition there is no reason for the people running the program to improve it.... Like healthcare is getting so much better because of the competition, right?
Or maybe how the financial system is so great with all that competition, right? Why are you so in bed with the government being in charge of everything? Seriously, you need help. I'm not. But feel free to make up more shit, after all thats all you've got. | 
07-01-2009, 10:48 AM
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Quote: Originally Posted by Nik
Quote: Originally Posted by Newby
Quote: Originally Posted by Nik
Like healthcare is getting so much better because of the competition, right?
Or maybe how the financial system is so great with all that competition, right? Why are you so in bed with the government being in charge of everything? Seriously, you need help. I'm not. But feel free to make up more shit, after all thats all you've got. Whatever you say, Nik. | 
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Quote: Originally Posted by WillowTree Willow knows.. they dug up the dead to vote, they sent stimulus checks to a dead man who had never ever been in the system,, so why wouldn't they send checks to dead people? it's all fraud. that's what democwats are built on fraud! Think Conyers! didn't she just resign? for fraud?  Well it certainly wasn't for cheating on her wife in Costa Rica or lying us into a war because those things go un punished.
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Quote: Originally Posted by Newby
Quote: Originally Posted by auditor0007
Quote: Originally Posted by WillowTree Willow knows.. they dug up the dead to vote, they sent stimulus checks to a dead man who had never ever been in the system,, so why wouldn't they send checks to dead people? it's all fraud. that's what democwats are built on fraud! Think Conyers! didn't she just resign? for fraud?  There is fraud in the private sector too, and I would venture to say it far surpasses the fraud found in government. That is not to say, we should turn everything over to the government, but there is a place where government can be just as effective if not moreso than the private sector. The difficult part is figuring out where government is more effective and where not. It would be easy if everything was black and white. Unfortunately, too many here believe it is, either for one side or the other. I think it's more about competition, the government doesn't have any, simple as that. There needs to be a free market, and government should only be doing what it was originally intended to do. It's gotten too far out of hand. I despise that simplistic argument. There's no way in hell this nation can possibly take giant steps backward.
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Quote: Originally Posted by sealybobo
Quote: Originally Posted by WillowTree Willow knows.. they dug up the dead to vote, they sent stimulus checks to a dead man who had never ever been in the system,, so why wouldn't they send checks to dead people? it's all fraud. that's what democwats are built on fraud! Think Conyers! didn't she just resign? for fraud?  Well it certainly wasn't for cheating on her wife in Costa Rica or lying us into a war because those things go un punished.  Or stealing millions from Indian tribes (Bob Ney, Steven Griles and David Safavian).
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