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No, they're centrists, you nazis!
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Not really, but kinda: they do lean to the left a little.
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Yes...no...I guess so - not? I don't know. I'm a Centrist.
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Kinda, but not really: they do lean to the left a lot.
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Yes, they're socialist hippies in suits, you pinkos!
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Quote: Originally Posted by Zoom-boing Want to know all about Obama? Go here and browse around. Click the bottom link on B.O. on the left. Check out his past, his associations, his ideology, etc. He's LEFT, of that there is no doubt. He'a a Centrist . . .  http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/viewIndividuals.asp Wow...nice little hit site that is. If I wanted to know "all about" Barack Obama, I'd go to a site that wasn't so nakedly partisan. Major alliance with Bill Ayers? Nice lie there. yeah.. you always launch a campaign from a house of someone that you don't know
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Quote: Originally Posted by DiamondDave
Quote: Originally Posted by Nik
Quote: Originally Posted by Zoom-boing Want to know all about Obama? Go here and browse around. Click the bottom link on B.O. on the left. Check out his past, his associations, his ideology, etc. He's LEFT, of that there is no doubt. He'a a Centrist . . . http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/viewIndividuals.asp Wow...nice little hit site that is. If I wanted to know "all about" Barack Obama, I'd go to a site that wasn't so nakedly partisan. Major alliance with Bill Ayers? Nice lie there. yeah.. you always launch a campaign from a house of someone that you don't know What a surprise. Another lie. Facts: Ayers living room, and launching Obama (Spin Cycle) - Newsday.com |
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Rep Power: 56 | | | Yeah... as stated.. you don't just go doing things like that without knowing or associating with the person first... Obama supporters and Obama scurried to cover tracks from that one.. as well as being on the same executive board, etc...
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Quote: Originally Posted by DiamondDave Yeah... as stated.. you don't just go doing things like that without knowing or associating with the person first... Obama supporters and Obama scurried to cover tracks from that one.. as well as being on the same executive board, etc...
It it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, lays eggs like a duck, swims like a duck, and tastes like a duck.. odds are it's a duck Do things like what, exactly? Just because you threw a goose into a pond with a bunch of ducks, doesn't mean its a duck. But do keep making shit up. Hes the president now, and all the righty lies in the world can't stop him now. |
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And lest we forget Obama's love of Alinsky's philosophies
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Quote: Originally Posted by Nik Actually that doesn't say he launched anything from Ayers living room, merely that he was associated with Ayers. And so the fuck what? Ayers now writes books on education and is a college professor. Ooooooooh, scary. Yes.. scary when an admitted terrorist is allowed to do such a thing... scary when that sort of radical has association with someone who is now the President... scary when they have an affinity with the same commie philosopher.... scary indeed
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Quote: Originally Posted by DiamondDave
Quote: Originally Posted by Nik Actually that doesn't say he launched anything from Ayers living room, merely that he was associated with Ayers. And so the fuck what? Ayers now writes books on education and is a college professor. Ooooooooh, scary. Yes.. scary when an admitted terrorist is allowed to do such a thing... scary when that sort of radical has association with someone who is now the President... scary when they have an affinity with the same commie philosopher.... scary indeed Same affinity! Whoah! Man, did you know that both Osama bin laden and Obama both wear pants too! I bet we can think of more similarities as well!
Sorry, but I'm over this shit. You dumbshits brought up all this crap about guilt by association during the election. You lost. You got your ass handed to you. Go ahead and spew your shit, but I'm done with debunking this shit. Move to fucking Russia if you hate the American president so much.  |
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Reid and Pelosi are far leftist! Obama might be a little more to the center than them, but he is still very much a liberal!
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Reid and Pelosi are far leftist! Obama might be a little more to the center than them, but he is still very much a liberal! The problem, and why labels are so bad, not all leftists are liberals, not all liberals are leftists, not all dems are liberals, not all cons are reps, not all scientists are atheists, not all politicians are crooked (just most), not all murderers are psychopaths, etc. etc. etc. ... | | The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to KittenKoder For This Useful Post: | |
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Quote: Originally Posted by Coloradomtnman Look. I'm a liberal. Obama, Reid, and Pelosi are left-leaning centrists. If someone has voted the way Obama, Reid, and Pelosi have, they aren't liberals; they're centrists.
Think of politics as a spectrum. Chomsky is a liberal, Nader is a liberal, the Green Party is liberal, but Democrats are not liberals. Democrats are centrists. Some Democrats voted for the Patriot Act for God's sakes! That isn't liberal. That's as right-wing as you can get from a liberal point of view. Anybody who doesn't immediately act to stop waterboarding isn't liberal. Anybody who supports clean coal isn't liberal. Anybody who maintains a military presence in Afghanistan isn't liberal. Anybody who bails out Wallstreet and the big national banks isn't liberal. If the spectrum goes from blue to red, then liberals are ultra-violet; anyone in the blue is just a liberalistic centrist with some right-wing tendencies.
I know that those of you who see politics from the right-side of the spectrum perceive centrists as liberals, but remember: you have to adjust for bias. Its called Kentucky windage. Oh oh, here it comes. In a week, they will be calling them right wing nuts. Just watch!
Look, Bush was a flaming liberal, at least on spending and as for social policies, well, he sure wasn't my kind of conservative. We had every right to toss him your way... but, you ain't gonna pawn those three off on us! No way... no how!!!! 
Immie It's just so damned laughable that not a single soul on this board will admit to ever supporting George W. Bush. George who? Sorry, folks, but the odds say that most of the "conservatives" who post here most certainly DID support him at one time. But it's not a happy place to be, so you pretend you were off somewhere else during his 8 years. 
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Quote: Originally Posted by GHook93 Are you serious?
Reid and Pelosi are far leftist! Obama might be a little more to the center than them, but he is still very much a liberal! The problem, and why labels are so bad, not all leftists are liberals, not all liberals are leftists, not all dems are liberals, not all cons are reps, not all scientists are atheists, not all politicians are crooked (just most), not all murderers are psychopaths, etc. etc. etc. ... Good point.
But left is another way of saying liberal. just as right is another name for conservative. Pelosi and Reid are definitely ultra-liberals social, on immigration, on the environment, on guns and esp their fiscal plans!
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Quote: Originally Posted by Coloradomtnman Look. I'm a liberal. Obama, Reid, and Pelosi are left-leaning centrists. If someone has voted the way Obama, Reid, and Pelosi have, they aren't liberals; they're centrists.
Think of politics as a spectrum. Chomsky is a liberal, Nader is a liberal, the Green Party is liberal, but Democrats are not liberals. Democrats are centrists. Some Democrats voted for the Patriot Act for God's sakes! That isn't liberal. That's as right-wing as you can get from a liberal point of view. Anybody who doesn't immediately act to stop waterboarding isn't liberal. Anybody who supports clean coal isn't liberal. Anybody who maintains a military presence in Afghanistan isn't liberal. Anybody who bails out Wallstreet and the big national banks isn't liberal. If the spectrum goes from blue to red, then liberals are ultra-violet; anyone in the blue is just a liberalistic centrist with some right-wing tendencies.
I know that those of you who see politics from the right-side of the spectrum perceive centrists as liberals, but remember: you have to adjust for bias. Its called Kentucky windage. Anyone who doesn't walk in lockstep with Southern conservative orthodoxy is a "liberal." As Limbaugh would have you believe, there is no such thing as a "moderate."
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Quote: Originally Posted by Immanuel
Quote: Originally Posted by Coloradomtnman Look. I'm a liberal. Obama, Reid, and Pelosi are left-leaning centrists. If someone has voted the way Obama, Reid, and Pelosi have, they aren't liberals; they're centrists.
Think of politics as a spectrum. Chomsky is a liberal, Nader is a liberal, the Green Party is liberal, but Democrats are not liberals. Democrats are centrists. Some Democrats voted for the Patriot Act for God's sakes! That isn't liberal. That's as right-wing as you can get from a liberal point of view. Anybody who doesn't immediately act to stop waterboarding isn't liberal. Anybody who supports clean coal isn't liberal. Anybody who maintains a military presence in Afghanistan isn't liberal. Anybody who bails out Wallstreet and the big national banks isn't liberal. If the spectrum goes from blue to red, then liberals are ultra-violet; anyone in the blue is just a liberalistic centrist with some right-wing tendencies.
I know that those of you who see politics from the right-side of the spectrum perceive centrists as liberals, but remember: you have to adjust for bias. Its called Kentucky windage. Oh oh, here it comes. In a week, they will be calling them right wing nuts. Just watch!
Look, Bush was a flaming liberal, at least on spending and as for social policies, well, he sure wasn't my kind of conservative. We had every right to toss him your way... but, you ain't gonna pawn those three off on us! No way... no how!!!!
Immie It's just so damned laughable that not a single soul on this board will admit to ever supporting George W. Bush. George who? Sorry, folks, but the odds say that most of the "conservatives" who post here most certainly DID support him at one time. But it's not a happy place to be, so you pretend you were off somewhere else during his 8 years. you're funny. believe it or not i am one of the most liberal people here in that I believe personal liberties and freedoms are of the utmost importance. What Is Classical Liberalism? Quote: People who call themselves classical liberals today tend to have the basic view of rights and role of government that Jefferson and his contemporaries had. Moreover, they do not tend to make any important distinction between economic liberties and civil liberties. that any democrat can call themselves liberal is laughable
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