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02-07-2009, 07:48 PM
|  | Registered User Member #13671 | | Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Tennessee
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I wonder how 84% of construction workers are going to feel when they realize that Obama has locked them out of bidding for federal contracts? | | The Following User Says Thank You to Vel6377 For This Useful Post: | | 
02-07-2009, 07:55 PM
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Rep Power: 218 | | | And all the asshole Democrats just smile and nod at the destruction they have brought to America.. Yep! | 
02-07-2009, 07:55 PM
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Rep Power: 36 | | | Really? Having worked with non-union 'construction workers', I find it reassuring that we are locking unqualified people out of the work on vital projects. All too many of these non-union 'construction workers' are undocumented aliens. Where I work, we do not allow non-union contractors to work on our vital machinery. Even though we are non-union ourselves.
What we do need to do, and, yes, it will increase costs, it to have more apprentices being trained on these jobs. That was one of the many benefits of the old WPA and CCC. But we will have a better trained workforce as the economy comes back on line, and that will speed the recovery. | 
02-07-2009, 07:57 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted by WillowTree And all the asshole Democrats just smile and nod at the destruction they have brought to America.. Yep! Hey Willow, my grandparents and parents lived through the First Great Republican Depression, now I get to live through the Second Great Republican Depression. Oh joy | 
02-07-2009, 08:02 PM
|  | Yes, I'm just kidding Member #11939 | | Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Little Rock, AR
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Rep Power: 291 | | I'm sure I'll get flamed for this, but I blame the Republicans. The Democrats are who they are. They have always supported unions, big government and socialistic policies. Even when they say they are centrists, everyone knows they're not. Republicans, on the other hand, have been trying to pander to conservatives and claim they are for smaller government, but they aren't. They have failed miserably during the last 8 years and allowed people like Obama, Pelosi and Reid to take power. Once the Democrats pass their huge government spending bills, that'll be that. | 
02-07-2009, 08:06 PM
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02-07-2009, 08:10 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted by xsited1 I'm sure I'll get flamed for this, but I blame the Republicans. The Democrats are who they are. They have always supported unions, big government and socialistic policies. Even when they say they are centrists, everyone knows they're not. Republicans, on the other hand, have been trying to pander to conservatives and claim they are for smaller government, but they aren't. They have failed miserably during the last 8 years and allowed people like Obama, Pelosi and Reid to take power. Once the Democrats pass their huge government spending bills, that'll be that.
you got the first part right, the second part is Dems are no longer Dems,,now they are Marxist! | 
02-07-2009, 08:12 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted by Old Rocks Really? Having worked with non-union 'construction workers', I find it reassuring that we are locking unqualified people out of the work on vital projects. All too many of these non-union 'construction workers' are undocumented aliens. Where I work, we do not allow non-union contractors to work on our vital machinery. Even though we are non-union ourselves.
What we do need to do, and, yes, it will increase costs, it to have more apprentices being trained on these jobs. That was one of the many benefits of the old WPA and CCC. But we will have a better trained workforce as the economy comes back on line, and that will speed the recovery.
Exactly how does paying union dues make someone more qualified than the next guy? Do you have to pass a test to be a union member? Unqualified minds would like to know. | 
02-07-2009, 08:13 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted by Old Rocks
Quote: Originally Posted by WillowTree And all the asshole Democrats just smile and nod at the destruction they have brought to America.. Yep! Hey Willow, my grandparents and parents lived through the First Great Republican Depression, now I get to live through the Second Great Republican Depression. Oh joy 
well you need to sit down and write ACORN and Bawney Fwanks a thank yew letter.. their intimidation and assholery landed you where you are.. I hope you had your personal finances in order, if not it could get rough.. | 
02-07-2009, 08:27 PM
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02-07-2009, 08:36 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted by xsited1 I'm sure I'll get flamed for this, but I blame the Republicans. The Democrats are who they are. They have always supported unions, big government and socialistic policies. Even when they say they are centrists, everyone knows they're not. Republicans, on the other hand, have been trying to pander to conservatives and claim they are for smaller government, but they aren't. They have failed miserably during the last 8 years and allowed people like Obama, Pelosi and Reid to take power. Once the Democrats pass their huge government spending bills, that'll be that. Well,I blame the people who knew Obama was dangerous to our country and still saw to it he was elected because they were too piggish and proud to vote for McCain. People reap what they sew and not just the Republicans currently in office that you hate so much... | | The Following User Says Thank You to Shadow For This Useful Post: | | 
02-08-2009, 05:28 AM
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Quote: Originally Posted by Shadow Well,I blame the people who knew Obama was dangerous to our country and still saw to it he was elected because they were too piggish and proud to vote for McCain. People reap what they sew and not just the Republicans currently in office that you hate so much... "Well, let's put some lipstick on this pig and see if we can get it to fly" | 
02-08-2009, 05:49 AM
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Rep Power: 159 | | | Given that the USA declared war on unions thanks to Reagan and the PATCO affair, I'd say this is a good first step to giving workers back the rights they once had.
Collective bargaining is an integral part of what made the American middle class possible. | 
02-08-2009, 05:53 AM
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Quote: Originally Posted by editec Given that the USA declared war on unions thanks to Reagan and the PATCO affair, I'd say this is a good first step to giving workers back the rights they once had.
Collective bargaining is an integral part of what made the American middle class possible. Horse shit. Last I checked Unions are not mandatory. They are mostly corrupt and heavily infiltrated by the mob. They openly discriminate and are anti woman. This is ignorant as hell. You all boo hoo hooed about competitive contracts and are now supporting JUST the opposite. When the Government locks out 84 percent of the work force that is NOT competitive at all. It is favoritism and it is illegal.
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