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10-02-2008, 06:55 AM
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I often hate that fact, since that means so many idiots (most of them NOT homeless) get to vote, but there it is. | 
10-02-2008, 07:01 AM
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Quote: Originally Posted by KittenKoder Neither side is really informed. Most partisans have no clue of what goes on, they choose sides and don't bother to think 'will these people actually do good for the country'. Instead they follow 'ideals' and slogans. Kit
This is really a good observation....
Many of the extremists just follow in lockstep with any rumor or slogan because it is like a flag waving rallying cry, attention whoring way to show where they stand.. it don't need to be a truth for them to feel better about their whack-job extremist stance
DIEBOLD, election stealing, dimpled chad, war for oil, Haliburton, etc ... great shouting material that fit right into the the hippie extremist mold of shouting anything for the sake of shouting, no matter how ignorant they are to the truth
And lord knows we see it from the extremist right on here too... KMAN being a prime example with many of the threads he starts
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10-02-2008, 07:04 AM
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Quote: Originally Posted by editec Every citizen should have the right to vote.
I often hate that fact, since that means so many idiots (most of them NOT homeless) get to vote, but there it is. It is not complaining that every citizen has the right to vote and to choose whether to vote...
but the blatant bribery for votes... playing games on the edge of the system, being taken advantage of because of no requirement for ID and proof of citizenry/residence to vote... THAT is the issue
I don't care if it is a homeless person who gets up and personally decides to vote for Obama, McCain, Nader, or freaking Scrappy Doo... as long as the vote is not farmed for a party or candidate as we are seeing done with many of these 'activist' groups
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10-02-2008, 08:47 AM
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Quote: Originally Posted by DiamondDave It is not complaining that every citizen has the right to vote and to choose whether to vote...
but the blatant bribery for votes... playing games on the edge of the system, being taken advantage of because of no requirement for ID and proof of citizenry/residence to vote... THAT is the issue
I don't care if it is a homeless person who gets up and personally decides to vote for Obama, McCain, Nader, or freaking Scrappy Doo... as long as the vote is not farmed for a party or candidate as we are seeing done with many of these 'activist' groups I find it odd that they even bother, to be honest.
Now that we know it doesn't matter who votes, but instead, who counts the votes, I mean. | 
10-02-2008, 09:18 AM
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Quote: Originally Posted by Alpha1 And some of us vets are even on here, wasting out time, trying to educate you.....
I was a homeless VET for a while.
It sucked. The hours were good though. | 
10-02-2008, 10:21 AM
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(b) Intimidation, threats, or coercion
No person, whether acting under color of law or otherwise, shall intimidate, threaten, or coerce, or attempt to intimidate, threaten, or coerce any person for voting or attempting to vote, or intimidate, threaten, or coerce, or attempt to intimidate, threaten, or coerce any person for urging or aiding any person to vote or attempt to vote, or intimidate, threaten, or coerce any person for exercising any powers or duties under section 1973a (a), 1973d, 1973f, 1973g, 1973h, or 1973j (e) of this title.
Why isn't riding around and picking up homeless people an act to coerce someone to vote? Also, has anyone given any thought that in Ohio , the giving away of t-shirts and refreshments and bus rides to and from the polling place is an attempt to buy votes? Even in Michigan free Jay-Z concert tickets? Why is this not buying votes?
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10-02-2008, 09:10 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted by Larkinn Oh noes! The homeless might vote! Suppress, supress!
The homeless here do not have a right to vote. Requires an address. It's pretty easy to see how allowing the homeless to vote can be abused.
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10-02-2008, 09:14 PM
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10-02-2008, 09:15 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted by eots I think Mary and Joseph where homeless for a time..and the irresponsible slut got knocked up as well...the nerve It was an inside job !!
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10-02-2008, 09:17 PM
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10-02-2008, 09:39 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted by eots I think Mary and Joseph where homeless for a time..and the irresponsible slut got knocked up as well...the nerve They didn't get to vote either, Einstein.
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Quote: Originally Posted by KMAN Why isn't McCain helping to register the homeless to vote? Voting is one of the most important responsibilities of citizenship and what better way to bring the homeless into the mainstream? | 
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Quote: Originally Posted by PeterS Why isn't McCain helping to register the homeless to vote? Voting is one of the most important responsibilities of citizenship and what better way to bring the homeless into the mainstream? Probably because it's just common sense, as I stated previously, you have to have a current address in order to register. The term "homeless" kind of settles that, huh?
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Quote: Originally Posted by DiamondDave It is not complaining that every citizen has the right to vote and to choose whether to vote...
but the blatant bribery for votes... playing games on the edge of the system, being taken advantage of because of no requirement for ID and proof of citizenry/residence to vote... THAT is the issue
I don't care if it is a homeless person who gets up and personally decides to vote for Obama, McCain, Nader, or freaking Scrappy Doo... as long as the vote is not farmed for a party or candidate as we are seeing done with many of these 'activist' groups Published on Thursday, August 28, 2003 by the Cleveland Plain Dealer
Voting Machine Controversy
by Julie Carr Smyth
COLUMBUS - The head of a company vying to sell voting machines in Ohio told Republicans in a recent fund-raising letter that he is "committed to helping Ohio deliver its electoral votes to the president next year."
The Aug. 14 letter from Walden O'Dell, chief executive of Diebold Inc. - who has become active in the re-election effort of President Bush - prompted Democrats this week to question the propriety of allowing O'Dell's company to calculate votes in the 2004 presidential election. http://www.newshounds.us/2004/10/29/...go_to_bush.php
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10-02-2008, 11:15 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted by eots I think Mary and Joseph where homeless for a time..and the irresponsible slut got knocked up as well...the nerve good thing herod didn't need the votes
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