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Obama mentor identified as communist

ELECTION 2008
Obama mentor identified as communist
Frank Marshall Davis 'discussed American imperialism, colonialism, exploitation'


Posted: February 19, 2008
9:27 pm Eastern

© 2008 WorldNetDaily
The mysterious "Frank" cited as a friend and adviser by Democratic president contender Barack Obama while he was growing up in Hawaii has been identified as Frank Marshall Davis, a member of the old Moscow-controlled Communist Party USA.
The identification comes from Cliff Kincaid in his column, "Obama's Communist Mentor," which was made available on the Accuracy in Media website.
"Let's challenge the liberal media to report on this," he wrote in his column. "Will they have the honesty and integrity to do so?"
Kincaid, who earlier reported on Obama's pending plan to ship $845 billion overseas to battle "global poverty" as evidence of his socialist leanings, said the newly revealed connection is even more worrisome.
(Story continues below)

"Obama's communist connection adds to mounting public concern about a candidate who has come out of virtually nowhere, with a brief U.S. Senate legislative record, to become the Democratic Party frontrunner for the U.S. presidency," he wrote.
In Obama's book, "Dreams From My Father," he repeatedly refers to his friend and adviser as "Frank."
"The reason is apparent: Davis was a known communist who belonged to a party subservient to the Soviet Union. In fact, the 1951 report of the Commission on Subversive Activities to the Legislature of the Territory of Hawaii identified him as a CPUSA member. What's more, anti-communist congressional committees, including the House Un-American Activities Committee (HUAC), accused Davis of involvement in several Communist front organizations," Kincaid said.
Kincaid noted Obama has admitted attending "social conferences" and seeing Marxist literature. "But he ridicules the charge of being a 'hard-core academic Marxist,' which was made by his colorful and outspoken 2004 U.S. Senate opponent, Republican Alan Keyes."
He described the link as "ominous."
"Decades ago, the CPUSA had tens of thousands of members, some of them covert agents who had penetrated the U.S. government. It received secret subsidies from the old Soviet Union," Kincaid wrote.
He noted even Obama describes "Frank" has having "some modest notoriety once."
Kincaid notes that a history professor in Houston reported that Davis "befriended" a family whose son was named Barack Obama, "who retracing the steps of Davis eventually decamped to Chicago."
"It was in Chicago that Obama became a 'community organizer' and came into contact with more far-left political forces, including the Democratic Socialists of America…," Kincaid wrote. "The SDS laid siege to college campuses across America in the 1960s, mostly in order to protest the Vietnam War, and spawned the terrorist Weather Underground organization."
He also reported Kathryn Takara, a professor of Interdisciplinary Studies at the University of Hawaii at Manoa, confirmed that Davis is the "Frank" in Obama's book.
She did her dissertation on Davis, and wrote that he brought, "an acute sense of race relations and class struggle throughout America and the world" and that he openly discussed subjects such as American imperialism, colonialism and exploitation, according to AIM.
Obama's campaign also, for the third straight day, declined to respond to WND requests for comment on the report of a Minnesota man who alleges he shared cocaine with Obama when Obama was a state lawmaker in Illinois.
WND has reported on claims made by Larry Sinclair, who claims he took cocaine in 1999 with Obama, and participated in homosexual acts with him.
Sinclair said his story was ignored by the news media, so he made his case last month in a YouTube video, which has now been viewed about 350,000 times.
When it still was ignored, Sinclair said, he filled a lawsuit in Minnesota District Court, alleging threats and intimidation by Obama's staff.
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Keep this shit up... I'll say just like the Palin whiners did, you're only motivating the Obama supporters even more. We've been dealing with this stuff for over a year... it's not going to sway anyone.

are you saying that this is the ONLY Frank in the world that Obama could've been friends with?
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Well what do you all think?

Obama mentor identified as communist

ELECTION 2008
Obama mentor identified as communist
Frank Marshall Davis 'discussed American imperialism, colonialism, exploitation'


Posted: February 19, 2008
9:27 pm Eastern

© 2008 WorldNetDaily
The mysterious "Frank" cited as a friend and adviser by Democratic president contender Barack Obama while he was growing up in Hawaii has been identified as Frank Marshall Davis, a member of the old Moscow-controlled Communist Party USA.
The identification comes from Cliff Kincaid in his column, "Obama's Communist Mentor," which was made available on the Accuracy in Media website.
"Let's challenge the liberal media to report on this," he wrote in his column. "Will they have the honesty and integrity to do so?"
Kincaid, who earlier reported on Obama's pending plan to ship $845 billion overseas to battle "global poverty" as evidence of his socialist leanings, said the newly revealed connection is even more worrisome.
(Story continues below)

"Obama's communist connection adds to mounting public concern about a candidate who has come out of virtually nowhere, with a brief U.S. Senate legislative record, to become the Democratic Party frontrunner for the U.S. presidency," he wrote.
In Obama's book, "Dreams From My Father," he repeatedly refers to his friend and adviser as "Frank."
"The reason is apparent: Davis was a known communist who belonged to a party subservient to the Soviet Union. In fact, the 1951 report of the Commission on Subversive Activities to the Legislature of the Territory of Hawaii identified him as a CPUSA member. What's more, anti-communist congressional committees, including the House Un-American Activities Committee (HUAC), accused Davis of involvement in several Communist front organizations," Kincaid said.
Kincaid noted Obama has admitted attending "social conferences" and seeing Marxist literature. "But he ridicules the charge of being a 'hard-core academic Marxist,' which was made by his colorful and outspoken 2004 U.S. Senate opponent, Republican Alan Keyes."
He described the link as "ominous."
"Decades ago, the CPUSA had tens of thousands of members, some of them covert agents who had penetrated the U.S. government. It received secret subsidies from the old Soviet Union," Kincaid wrote.
He noted even Obama describes "Frank" has having "some modest notoriety once."
Kincaid notes that a history professor in Houston reported that Davis "befriended" a family whose son was named Barack Obama, "who retracing the steps of Davis eventually decamped to Chicago."
"It was in Chicago that Obama became a 'community organizer' and came into contact with more far-left political forces, including the Democratic Socialists of America…," Kincaid wrote. "The SDS laid siege to college campuses across America in the 1960s, mostly in order to protest the Vietnam War, and spawned the terrorist Weather Underground organization."
He also reported Kathryn Takara, a professor of Interdisciplinary Studies at the University of Hawaii at Manoa, confirmed that Davis is the "Frank" in Obama's book.
She did her dissertation on Davis, and wrote that he brought, "an acute sense of race relations and class struggle throughout America and the world" and that he openly discussed subjects such as American imperialism, colonialism and exploitation, according to AIM.
Obama's campaign also, for the third straight day, declined to respond to WND requests for comment on the report of a Minnesota man who alleges he shared cocaine with Obama when Obama was a state lawmaker in Illinois.
WND has reported on claims made by Larry Sinclair, who claims he took cocaine in 1999 with Obama, and participated in homosexual acts with him.
Sinclair said his story was ignored by the news media, so he made his case last month in a YouTube video, which has now been viewed about 350,000 times.
When it still was ignored, Sinclair said, he filled a lawsuit in Minnesota District Court, alleging threats and intimidation by Obama's staff.
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I'm thinking it's sort of an old story that never got legs.
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Keep this shit up... I'll say just like the Palin whiners did, you're only motivating the Obama supporters even more. We've been dealing with this stuff for over a year... it's not going to sway anyone.

are you saying that this is the ONLY Frank in the world that Obama could've been friends with?
I don't know, but that is what it is all about, let's find out.
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Keep this shit up... I'll say just like the Palin whiners did, you're only motivating the Obama supporters even more. We've been dealing with this stuff for over a year... it's not going to sway anyone.

are you saying that this is the ONLY Frank in the world that Obama could've been friends with?
Why doesn't shit like this motivate people to find out for themselves instead of blindly react to it ?
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the 1951 report of the Commission on Subversive Activities to the Legislature of the Territory of Hawaii identified him as a CPUSA member. What's more, anti-communist congressional committees, including the House Un-American Activities Committee (HUAC), accused Davis of involvement in several Communist front organizations
Lotsa hipsters were Communists in the 50s. Lotsa people thought Capitalism had some flaws and that maybe another political philosophy might be preferable. And HUAC was a detestable right-wing governmental entity designed to stamp out free thought. HUAC ruined the lives of hundreds of harmless intellectuals.

Don't take everything you read in WingNutDaily at face value. Those guys find benign stories and rewrite them just to freak you out.
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I'm thinking it's sort of an old story that never got legs.
But I guess it never hurts to try again eh?
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Lotsa hipsters were Communists in the 50s. Lotsa people thought Capitalism had some flaws and that maybe another political philosophy might be preferable. And HUAC was a detestable right-wing governmental entity designed to stamp out free thought. HUAC ruined the lives of hundreds of harmless intellectuals.

Don't take everything you read in WingNutDaily at face value. Those guys find benign stories and rewrite them just to freak you out.
Communism isn't real big on free thought either. The truth is a damn hard thing to find these days.
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Communism isn't real big on free thought either. The truth is a damn hard thing to find these days.
I'm not defending Communism. I'm denouncing suppression of political thought.
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Why doesn't shit like this motivate people to find out for themselves instead of blindly react to it ?
says one of the people who blindly reacts to everything?

this is exactly the type of thing that the Cons are whining about with Palin. it's more of the do as I say and not as I do bullshit.

IE: we can smear your candidate all we want but you better not do it to ours otherwise you're being unfair.
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I'm not defending Communism. I'm denouncing suppression of political thought.
then I guess this Davis guy might be worth looking into---has anyone just asked Obama who the hell "Frank" is ? Seems simple enough.
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then I guess this Davis guy might be worth looking into---has anyone just asked Obama who the hell "Frank" is ? Seems simple enough.
My point is that even if "Frank" was a person who had Communistic sympathies in the 50s and became friends with Obama forty years later, even if all that is true, maybe we still shouldn't nail either of them to a tree.
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My point is that even if "Frank" was a person who had Communistic sympathies in the 50s and became friends with Obama forty years later, even if all that is true, maybe we still shouldn't nail either of them to a tree.
Who said anything about nailing ? My point is what can it hurt for a person to take info such as this and do some research instead of summarily rejecting it ?
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Who said anything about nailing ? My point is what can it hurt for a person to take info such as this and do some research instead of summarily rejecting it ?
As I said, lotsa hipster were Communists in the 50s. If Obama became friends with one in the 90s, is that really something to worry about today?

It may well be. Political philosophy lives throughout the years. After all, we know Prescott Bush collaborated with the Nazis and we nevertheless trusted his progeny, and we can look around us and see how well that worked out.

So maybe if Obama is elected he'll replace capitalism with collectivism. Probably not, though, right?
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My point is that even if "Frank" was a person who had Communistic sympathies in the 50s and became friends with Obama forty years later, even if all that is true, maybe we still shouldn't nail either of them to a tree.
Communism a harmless philosophy:

THE FORGOTTEN VICTIMS OF WWII:

Berlin girls and women were brutally raped by Soviet soldiers—ten percent of the rape victims having committed suicide.
Worldwide public discourse since WWII heralded the bravery of the Red Army; glossed over are the abhorrent atrocities committed by these same men upon the girls and women of Berlin. We have here an historically unique contextual contradiction whereby German girls and women—many of whom were Nazi supporters—were sexually victimized by Red Army soldiers who had earlier courageously liberated Hitler’s concentration camps. Arguably, it is insufficient merely to document the great number of tortured women—we must additionally ask why this deplorable violence was committed by these very “liberators” against the forgotten victims of WWII?
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