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Obama mentor identified as communist

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Obama mentor identified as communist
Frank Marshall Davis 'discussed American imperialism, colonialism, exploitation'


Posted: February 19, 2008
9:27 pm Eastern

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The mysterious "Frank" cited as a friend and adviser by Democratic president contender Barack Obama while he was growing up in Hawaii has been identified as Frank Marshall Davis, a member of the old Moscow-controlled Communist Party USA.
The identification comes from Cliff Kincaid in his column, "Obama's Communist Mentor," which was made available on the Accuracy in Media website.
"Let's challenge the liberal media to report on this," he wrote in his column. "Will they have the honesty and integrity to do so?"
Kincaid, who earlier reported on Obama's pending plan to ship $845 billion overseas to battle "global poverty" as evidence of his socialist leanings, said the newly revealed connection is even more worrisome.
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"Obama's communist connection adds to mounting public concern about a candidate who has come out of virtually nowhere, with a brief U.S. Senate legislative record, to become the Democratic Party frontrunner for the U.S. presidency," he wrote.
In Obama's book, "Dreams From My Father," he repeatedly refers to his friend and adviser as "Frank."
"The reason is apparent: Davis was a known communist who belonged to a party subservient to the Soviet Union. In fact, the 1951 report of the Commission on Subversive Activities to the Legislature of the Territory of Hawaii identified him as a CPUSA member. What's more, anti-communist congressional committees, including the House Un-American Activities Committee (HUAC), accused Davis of involvement in several Communist front organizations," Kincaid said.
Kincaid noted Obama has admitted attending "social conferences" and seeing Marxist literature. "But he ridicules the charge of being a 'hard-core academic Marxist,' which was made by his colorful and outspoken 2004 U.S. Senate opponent, Republican Alan Keyes."
He described the link as "ominous."
"Decades ago, the CPUSA had tens of thousands of members, some of them covert agents who had penetrated the U.S. government. It received secret subsidies from the old Soviet Union," Kincaid wrote.
He noted even Obama describes "Frank" has having "some modest notoriety once."
Kincaid notes that a history professor in Houston reported that Davis "befriended" a family whose son was named Barack Obama, "who retracing the steps of Davis eventually decamped to Chicago."
"It was in Chicago that Obama became a 'community organizer' and came into contact with more far-left political forces, including the Democratic Socialists of America…," Kincaid wrote. "The SDS laid siege to college campuses across America in the 1960s, mostly in order to protest the Vietnam War, and spawned the terrorist Weather Underground organization."
He also reported Kathryn Takara, a professor of Interdisciplinary Studies at the University of Hawaii at Manoa, confirmed that Davis is the "Frank" in Obama's book.
She did her dissertation on Davis, and wrote that he brought, "an acute sense of race relations and class struggle throughout America and the world" and that he openly discussed subjects such as American imperialism, colonialism and exploitation, according to AIM.
Obama's campaign also, for the third straight day, declined to respond to WND requests for comment on the report of a Minnesota man who alleges he shared cocaine with Obama when Obama was a state lawmaker in Illinois.
WND has reported on claims made by Larry Sinclair, who claims he took cocaine in 1999 with Obama, and participated in homosexual acts with him.
Sinclair said his story was ignored by the news media, so he made his case last month in a YouTube video, which has now been viewed about 350,000 times.
When it still was ignored, Sinclair said, he filled a lawsuit in Minnesota District Court, alleging threats and intimidation by Obama's staff.
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So I guess because one of my polysci teachers in college was a german national citizen that makes me a nazi simpathizer!
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So I guess because one of my polysci teachers in college was a german national citizen that makes me a nazi simpathizer!

Was he a Nazi and did he influence your formative year. Anyone who was sympathetic to communism is too danger to be allowed anywhere near the presidency. The Communists were worse than the Nazi.
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Well what do you all think?
Oh, good gawd! McCain is friends with Bush. I bet he bites his tongue everyday for THAT big mistake!
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Are you saying bush is a NAZI?
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Was he a Nazi and did he influence your formative year. Anyone who was sympathetic to communism is too danger to be allowed anywhere near the presidency. The Communists were worse than the Nazi.
Did communistis were not worse then the Nazi's, did they commit massive genocide. Also there is no solid proof Frank was a communist, he never admitted to it and they dropped the investigation against. Plus when obama knew him in the 70's he was retired and writing poetry. Stop the McCarthyism! Barack Obama and Frank Marshall Davis The Long Goodbye
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The communist killed many times more people than the Nazis. They might have killed more Tibetans that than the Nazis killed Jews and that is just one country and one ethic group.
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The communist killed many times more people than the Nazis. They might have killed more Tibetans that than the Nazis killed Jews and that is just one country and one ethic group.
Which has got what to do with Frank Davis and Obama for that matter...
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The communist killed many times more people than the Nazis. They might have killed more Tibetans that than the Nazis killed Jews and that is just one country and one ethic group.
Giving the fact the population is only between 2 to 6 million I don't think so. YOu compare repression to genocide! And they have never proven the soviets had death camps.
And I see you dropped the agruement Obama is a communist!
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Which has got what to do with Frank Davis and Obama for that matter...
its a wonderful thing that the u.s.a school system is better than australia's school system. at least we can read.
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its a wonderful thing that the u.s.a school system is better than australia's school system. at least we can read.
Is it? I wouldn't know. Haven't been to school in the USA or Australia. But I do know my geography.

Trying to link Obama to Frank Davis is like trying to link Bush to Hitler. That aside, being a neocon, going into anything with more depth than a vox pop with the likes of you is pointless. You live your life getting info from slogans and Fox News.
'nuff said.......
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Giving the fact the population is only between 2 to 6 million I don't think so. YOu compare repression to genocide! And they have never proven the soviets had death camps.
And I see you dropped the agruement Obama is a communist!
And so what if Frank Davis was too. Just because somebody is a communist doesn't mean that they believe in the way the Chinese or Russians interpreted that economic system.
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And so what if Frank Davis was too. Just because somebody is a communist doesn't mean that they believe in the way the Chinese or Russians interpreted that economic system.
i'm not sure if i should laugh or cry. this is the dumbest thing i've read in weeks.

"Just because somebody is a communist doesn't mean that they believe in the way the Chinese or Russians interpreted that economic system."

isn't their only one economic solution with a communist?
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i'm not sure if i should laugh or cry. this is the dumbest thing i've read in weeks.

"Just because somebody is a communist doesn't mean that they believe in the way the Chinese or Russians interpreted that economic system."

isn't their only one economic solution with a communist?
Communism:1 a: a theory advocating elimination of private property b: a system in which goods are owned in common and are available to all as needed

And the Dr. is right many people who believe in communism is this country do not believe in the way the chinese and Russians interpreted it. It was suppose to make everyone egual!
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i'm not sure if i should laugh or cry. this is the dumbest thing i've read in weeks.

"Just because somebody is a communist doesn't mean that they believe in the way the Chinese or Russians interpreted that economic system."

isn't their only one economic solution with a communist?
You're not that bright are you. Next thing you are going to say is that China and the USSR were communist states....lol...Before you even attempt to answer, they were totalitarian states, not communist. True Marxist communism never existed in those countries (although to be fair, the instigators in both cases initially TRIED to make those countries so, but failed miserably).

Get back to me when you have an inkling of education...
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I once refereed to Obama as a communist but I was using the word as a figure of speech to mean someone to the extreme left, which he is. If Obama has sympathy for communist he is not fit to be the president of a country dedicated to liberty. The question is did he have a communist mentor as a young boy, why can’t we find out?

You think communism can be none oppressive. Do you really think a dictatorship of the proletariat would be any thing other than a dictatorship?
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