It seems to me the Christian Right is off base...with the ppl that Jesus surrounded himself with and the ppl he helped...it looks to me that Jesus, in today's world,would be a Liberal...

Jesus wasn't a 'Liberal' any more than he was a 'Conservative' using today's pigeon-holing system. He would have turned over the money changers tables in the lobby offices of both parties.

-Joe

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ho hum---another attack on Christianity.

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"But though there is no difference in this respect between the best demagogue and the worst, both of them having to present their cases equally in terms of melodrama, there is all the difference in the world between the statesman who is humbugging the people into allowing him to do the will of God, in whatever disguise it may come to him, and one who is humbugging them into furthering his personal ambition and the commercial interests of the plutocrats who own the newspapers and support him on reciprocal terms."
-George Bernard Shaw

What a crock of crap. It is a statement saying that Jesus was for change and did not support much of the established status quo. That is liberal thought.

I don't think he would approve of hating the sinner like some of the right religious do.

In my opinion, too many of those pushing his values are a bunch of hippo crips today. Worry for the foetus, but fuck the poor child who is starving and needs healthcare.

What was Jesus all about?

I'm not sure.

Her's something to ask yourselves, though...

Where do you think Jesus would have been more comfortable and more accepted?

In an Exxon-Mobil Board of Directors meeting or at Woodstock?

probably Exxon-----the lines to the bathrooms weren't quite as long.
Please--no one know what Jesus would do.

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"Some men eventually stumble over the truth but they usually pick themselves up and walk on as if nothing ever happened."
-Winston Churchill

"But though there is no difference in this respect between the best demagogue and the worst, both of them having to present their cases equally in terms of melodrama, there is all the difference in the world between the statesman who is humbugging the people into allowing him to do the will of God, in whatever disguise it may come to him, and one who is humbugging them into furthering his personal ambition and the commercial interests of the plutocrats who own the newspapers and support him on reciprocal terms."
-George Bernard Shaw

For that matter the right seems to me more about Paul than Jesus. I could be wrong, of course.

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Yo Rayboy, I think ya got it wrong dude. Jesus WAS for change, and DID NOT support the status quo. Remember why he was crucified? It was because the status quo and established leadership wanted Him dead, as he was in the process of telling people how corrupt the Jewish and Roman leadership was. Was He a "liberal"? No. He was a revolutionary.

Besides, He hung out with the less fortunate and fed them (liberal), provided free health care to anyone that asked (liberal), and was killed by the established leadership because they feared what He was doing (liberal).

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You can measure the patriotism of a citizen, not by how much they shout in support of their country, but rather by how much they KNOW about their country.

You left part of it out ... change for the sake of change is leftwingnut thought being passed off as liberalism in this country nowadays.

You have a good point re: hating the sinner. Apply it to yourself and your rabid, drooling at the mouth attacks and sensationalized, twisted if not flat out lying subject lines in the threads you post.

Not looking REAL good for YOU. But if it makes you feel any better, it DOES make you just as much a hypocrite as anyone you mentioned.

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I don't think he'd have been caught dead at either place.

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“The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing” - Edmund Burke

Besides, He hung out with the less fortunate and fed them (socialist), provided free health care to anyone that asked (socialist), and was killed by the established leadership because they feared what He was doing (socialist).

I have taken the liberty of correcting your misuse of the word "liberal" and replacing it with one that better defines your statement.

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unintentionally funny I'm sure, but funny to me just the same....

I think too often Jesus and/or God is used as a weapon or tool to push the agenda of the Republican party.

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Actually, I think He'd be found more at Woodstock than Exxon. After all, He was very much into nature and preserving life (hippie), liked music and parties (hippie), and really enjoyed sitting around and just talking with His disciples (hippie).

Additionally, I'd be willing to say that Yeshua (Jesus) smoked cannabis. Several reasons for that actually, one of them being that one of the primary ingredients of the Holy Annointing Oil was cannabis.

So.....Woodstock sounds like it would have been a good bet. Besides, if He had been at Woodstock, there wouldn't have been people crawling in the mud because He would make it so that it didn't rain.

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Everyone has a right to their own opinion? Bullshit, everyone has a right to their own INFORMED opinion. - Harlan Ellison

You can measure the patriotism of a citizen, not by how much they shout in support of their country, but rather by how much they KNOW about their country.

Jesus came to teach and save the sinners on earth, not the righteous....of course he would have hung out with us liberals more!

If Jesus was around today and looked around the world he would have one message.

Holy shit, I died for these people?

Really though, I don't think Jesus would be a member of the right wing party.

First off, he wasn't white. (Though that's not to say that everybody in the right wing party is.)

Second, Jesus doesn't like war at all, rather peace. So he wouldn't of liked George W Bush or any of the other chickenhawks.

Third, I doubt he would like how so many churches, people,etc use his image as a way to express their hate speech towards other.

John Lennon said it best: "Jesus was all right, but his disciples were thick and ordinary. It's them twisting it that ruins it for me."

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"Progress is a nice word. But change is its motivator. And change has its enemies."

-- Robert F Kennedy (Both Quotes)