Liar, Liar, Pants on Fire

Ok ... I watched the clip ...

So it seems like she is saying "pray that the Iraq war is a task from God," and not that is flat out is a task from God.

Some a lot more so than others ...

To an extent, yes, I would think so.

I'm not entirely sure he would ... I'm not sure that Senator Obama would think that the Iraq War could possibly be considered God's plan ...

I do agree that it does slightly change the context.

Thanks again for your honesty...

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It's amazing what actually paying attention to the words does for one's understanding.

And it's also amazing what going to the source will do for the truth.

Never believe crap you hear second hand...and if you don't understand the English language, please don't bore people with ridiculous assumptions about what people "mean" when they say something. Just go with what they actually say, ducks.

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Yeah I'll find it in a minute.

But Palin did say more directly than you posted about the war. I'll find that too - it might be wahat Marta posted, did you look at that.

In the meantime, the creation thing she *does8want taught in the science classroom, alongside evolution, which on other threads people were saying she never said in science. Well, her party has it as a plank, in alaska:

She has no grasp of science. Science drives technology. She cannot be in a position to be making policy for our country.

And she's a nut.

Nothing wrong with that.

You want to teach your garbage, we get to teach ours as well. That's the way it works.

And a nut doesn't reduce pork by more than $200 million in one year, or gain 80 percent approval ratings of her state.

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A wise and frugal government, which shall leave men free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned - this is the sum of good government.
Thomas Jefferson

I don't find that extreme at all. In fact, I find it remarkably consistent with great American warriors since George Washington.

Before you type, you should read. Here's #1 on the AIP platform:
Alaskan Independence Party

I respectfully submit that it is a little more than a slight change.

She is asking for prayers of wisdom for our national leaders.

Who can fault her for that?





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Not me. I think she's great. Thinking outside the box..and all Alaska benefited hugely from it.

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A wise and frugal government, which shall leave men free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned - this is the sum of good government.
Thomas Jefferson

Would you teach it in Math class? That would make just as much sense as teaching it in science class.

Science is a discipline that has a method (the scientific method) of observation, question, hypothesis, testing, analysis, and reformulation of hypothesis. It is fluid. It makes testable predictions. Science is always changing, that is what is fluid about it. Our understanding of evolution today has been modified by experimentation and will continue to be modified with additional experimentation.

In no way shape or form is creationism science. It makes no testable predictions. It is static. The story it tells is unchanging. It never was put through the scientific method, it is not science. This is not hard to understand.

No field within science is static, none. They are all fluid. They all subscribe to the method. Creationism is a story.

Why is it such a closely held story? Because to believe it comes from a place of faith. Faith is not an attribute of science. But, faith can move mountains. Faith is a force so powerful that it can change lives in a split second. But faith is not science.

If a scientist came into my church and wanted to talk science to me, I would ask them to wait until I was done in my church and leave it for outside. If scientists wanted to teach evolution in your church services, I assume you would find that outrageous. But this is what you are suggesting be done, and you are suggesting that it be legislated, and you are insinuating that it is a personal liberty that you hold.

Do scientists have a self-evident liberty to come into church and teach evolution? This is what you are saying, in reverse.

My time in church is sacred. Faith is from God and of God.

Politicians who want to use faith to shape science education (the underpinning of technology) do not understand the differences between faith and science, and have no place making policy.

I can.

To me it sounds like she is praying that God wanted this war which is something I disagree with ...

Well now you are changing the context.

Here is the quote:

Did you leave the bold part out, in your interpretation?

Praying for our leaders isn't by any means proclaiming that the war in Iraq is 'God's plan'.

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Be thankful we're not getting all the government we're paying for.
Will Rogers
Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel or envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.

Winston Churchill
And so, my fellow Americans: ask not what your country can do for you—ask what you can do for your country.

JFK
No man's life, liberty, or property are safe while the legislature is in session. -- Mark Twain

One of the articles linked to the videos but evidently the website has pulled them off.

I suspect someone may have loaded them to utube, but I can't look right now, must start dinner.

That's cool, patiently waiting.

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Be thankful we're not getting all the government we're paying for.
Will Rogers
Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel or envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.

Winston Churchill
And so, my fellow Americans: ask not what your country can do for you—ask what you can do for your country.

JFK
No man's life, liberty, or property are safe while the legislature is in session. -- Mark Twain