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07-16-2008, 06:36 AM
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Rep Power: 438 | | | “I know how to win wars. I know how to win wars” So said John McCain yesterday.
Can anyone tell me what exactly he's done in his life that makes this statement remotely true? | 
07-16-2008, 06:53 AM
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Rep Power: 12 | | | Hmmm.. The bar scene was utter hell yet Mac managed to both elude the enemy (his wife) and still conquer woman after woman. | 
07-16-2008, 06:55 AM
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Quote: Originally Posted by Ravi So said John McCain yesterday.
Can anyone tell me what exactly he's done in his life that makes this statement remotely true? Maybe the part he isn't telling us is that he's planning on invading Grenada again?
I'm reasonably certain we can kick their ass, again, and probably even win a peace there, too.
Do they have coconut oil, perhaps? | 
07-16-2008, 07:28 AM
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Rep Power: 12 | | | Cant fight a guerilla war from 30,000 feet... screw this mideast nonsense.. lets pull out and attack grenada again... It worked for Reagan.... | 
07-16-2008, 07:51 AM
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Rep Power: 2 | | | Well, let's see...McCain was improsened in Nort Vietnam for severeal years...he fought in the Vietnam war...he helped leading America in the Afghanistan and Iraq war...a story of successes. | 
07-16-2008, 07:56 AM
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Quote: Originally Posted by Stefan Well, let's see...McCain was improsened in Nort Vietnam for severeal years...he fought in the Vietnam war...he helped leading America in the Afghanistan and Iraq war...a story of successes. YOu actually didnt mention his command controll .. lol. | 
07-16-2008, 08:20 AM
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Rep Power: 87 | | I think he was referring to the war against common sense. A vote for John McCain is a vote against the fundamental principle of America, the right of the individual to lead their life privately without the government interfering. Crooks and Liars McCain Sets a New Record: 10 Flip-Flops in Two Weeks | 
07-16-2008, 08:32 AM
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Quote: Originally Posted by Jeepers Cant fight a guerilla war from 30,000 feet... screw this mideast nonsense.. lets pull out and attack grenada again... It worked for Reagan.... All wars should be fought hand to hand and those in favor of war should be the first to go. Sending rockets removes the human element, it make death a video game. As the war nuts die they should be encased in plastic and shown to the youth of the world.
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07-16-2008, 09:11 AM
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Quote: Originally Posted by Stefan Well, let's see...McCain was improsened in Nort Vietnam for severeal years...he fought in the Vietnam war...he helped leading America in the Afghanistan and Iraq war...a story of successes. We lost Vietnam. We're not doing well in Afghanistan. Iraq is questionable. | 
07-16-2008, 09:42 AM
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Quote: Originally Posted by midcan5 All wars should be fought hand to hand and those in favor of war should be the first to go. Sending rockets removes the human element, it make death a video game. As the war nuts die they should be encased in plastic and shown to the youth of the world.
"All the war-propaganda, all the screaming and lies and hatred, comes invariably from people who are not fighting. George Orwell A peacenick giving advise on how a war should be fought... .priceless...
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07-16-2008, 09:52 AM
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Quote: Originally Posted by DiamondDave A peacenick giving advise on how a war should be fought... .priceless...  i have an idea. how bout we dont get into pointless wars?
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Quote: Originally Posted by busara i have an idea. how bout we dont get into pointless wars? I got an idea... stop having peacenicks think that they get to decide what is a pointless war...
This is the real world, not John Lennon's "Imagine".... evil and enemies exist, allies get attacked, despots don't comply to cease-fire agreements, etc... you don't just turn the other cheek, you don't assume that if you ignore it that it will go away
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07-16-2008, 10:10 AM
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Quote: Originally Posted by DiamondDave I got an idea... stop having peacenicks think that they get to decide what is a pointless war...
This is the real world, not John Lennon's "Imagine".... evil and enemies exist, allies get attacked, despots don't comply to cease-fire agreements, etc... you don't just turn the other cheek, you don't assume that if you ignore it that it will go away so, iraq attacked us or one of our allies?
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Quote: Originally Posted by DiamondDave I got an idea... stop having peacenicks think that they get to decide what is a pointless war...
This is the real world, not John Lennon's "Imagine".... evil and enemies exist, allies get attacked, despots don't comply to cease-fire agreements, etc... you don't just turn the other cheek, you don't assume that if you ignore it that it will go away I imagine people that are against unjustified wars are just as capable of deciding as people that can't wait to shoot off a gun.
So, what did McCain ever do that qualifies him to make that statement? | 
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