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Fact-checking recent claims about climate change

Fact-checking recent claims about climate change


For ignorant Tea Brains.


Related rulings:
Mostly False
Surface temperatures on Earth "have stabilized."
Marco Rubio, Tuesday, May 20th, 2014.

Ruling: Mostly False

Mostly True
Cap and trade legislation "was originally a Republican idea."
Debbie Wasserman Schultz, Tuesday, May 13th, 2014.

Ruling: Mostly True | Details

Mostly True
"Virtually no Republican" in Washington accepts climate change science.
Jerry Brown, Sunday, May 18th, 2014.

Ruling: Mostly True | Details

False
Human activity is not "causing these dramatic changes to our climate."
Marco Rubio, Sunday, May 11th, 2014.

Ruling: False | Details

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Americans "bought into climate change" in 2004-06, but then most "began wandering away from this issue."
Joe Scarborough, Monday, May 12th, 2014.

Ruling: Half-True | Details

True
The National Science Foundation awarded $700,000 to fund a climate change musical.
Lamar Smith, Wednesday, March 26th, 2014.

Ruling: True | Details

Mostly False
Earth "has not warmed for the last 17 years."
Patrick Moore, Tuesday, March 11th, 2014.

Ruling: Mostly False | Details

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In a poll, "53 percent of young Republican voters . . . under age 35 said that they would describe a climate [change] denier as 'ignorant,' 'out of touch' or 'crazy.'"
Sheldon Whitehouse, Wednesday, November 13th, 2013.

Ruling: Mostly True | Details

Mostly True
Sen. Marco Rubio "refuses to accept the basic science" on climate change and is "a climate change denier."
Organizing for Action, Friday, August 9th, 2013.

Ruling: Mostly True | Details

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In South Florida, "we've had nine inches of sea-level rise since the 1920s."
Debbie Wasserman Schultz, Friday, June 28th, 2013.

Ruling: True | Details

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"This president spends 30 times as much money on global warming research as he does on weather forecasting and warning."
Jim Bridenstine, Tuesday, June 11th, 2013.

Ruling: Mostly False | Details
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Human activity is not "causing these dramatic changes to our climate."

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How our climate is changing

Historically, the earth goes through periods of hotter and cooler temperatures. So how do we know global warming isn’t a natural part of this cycle?

By taking measurements, said Leonard Berry, director of Florida Atlantic University’s Center for Environmental Studies.

"We can measure the fact that the earth is warming. We can measure the fact that the ocean is warming," Berry said. "While geological history shows warming and cooling periods, as far back as we go, none shows the kind of warming and the kind of changes we’re experiencing right now."

Scientists trace back this shift to the Industrial Revolution, which began in 1760. Since that period, carbon dioxide rose 40 percent and methane by 150 percent. High levels of these and other greenhouse gases in the atmosphere trap heat at the surface of the earth, warming the planet.

By burning fossil fuels, chopping down trees, and using fertilizer, humans have directly contributed to global warming.

The connection between increased levels of greenhouse gases and rising temperature has been confirmed by scientists for over a century, said Jennifer Francis, a Rutgers University marine and coastal sciences professor.

"There is as much uncertainty about this connection as there is about what will happen when you drop an object," Francis said. "It will fall."

The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change is also on board with human activity as a cause. They reported that were it not for human impact, the likely effect of natural changes to the environment would’ve been one of cooling, not warming. They cite "very high confidence" that human activities caused a change of course.

The U.S. Global Change Research program published a 2014 report on climate change. It doesn’t debate whether human activity causes climate change. Rather, it focuses on what actions to take to lessen its effects.

A May 2013 report analyzing all scientific papers that address the causes of climate change showed 97.1 percent of findings that took a position agree that there’s been a negative human impact on the atmosphere. Comedian John Oliver cleverly addressed the debate’s conclusiveness on a recent Last Week Tonight episode by arranging a representative debate between 97 climate change scientists and three deniers.

As a politician from Florida, Rubio must contend with research that pegs Miami and Tampa as two of the U.S. cities most likely to be impacted by climate change. Rising sea levels will make them more prone to flooding.

"Whatever the cause of climate change, the impacts on Florida are already important and that it would be difficult for responsible people in Florida to ignore that fact," Berry said.
Yeah well, who is that guy some sort of scientist or something? /sarcasm
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Fact-checking recent claims about climate change


For ignorant Tea Brains.


Related rulings:
Mostly False
Surface temperatures on Earth "have stabilized."
Marco Rubio, Tuesday, May 20th, 2014.

Ruling: Mostly False

Mostly True
Cap and trade legislation "was originally a Republican idea."
Debbie Wasserman Schultz, Tuesday, May 13th, 2014.

Ruling: Mostly True | Details

Mostly True
"Virtually no Republican" in Washington accepts climate change science.
Jerry Brown, Sunday, May 18th, 2014.

Ruling: Mostly True | Details

False
Human activity is not "causing these dramatic changes to our climate."
Marco Rubio, Sunday, May 11th, 2014.

Ruling: False | Details

Half-True
Americans "bought into climate change" in 2004-06, but then most "began wandering away from this issue."
Joe Scarborough, Monday, May 12th, 2014.

Ruling: Half-True | Details

True
The National Science Foundation awarded $700,000 to fund a climate change musical.
Lamar Smith, Wednesday, March 26th, 2014.

Ruling: True | Details

Mostly False
Earth "has not warmed for the last 17 years."
Patrick Moore, Tuesday, March 11th, 2014.

Ruling: Mostly False | Details

Mostly True
In a poll, "53 percent of young Republican voters . . . under age 35 said that they would describe a climate [change] denier as 'ignorant,' 'out of touch' or 'crazy.'"
Sheldon Whitehouse, Wednesday, November 13th, 2013.

Ruling: Mostly True | Details

Mostly True
Sen. Marco Rubio "refuses to accept the basic science" on climate change and is "a climate change denier."
Organizing for Action, Friday, August 9th, 2013.

Ruling: Mostly True | Details

True
In South Florida, "we've had nine inches of sea-level rise since the 1920s."
Debbie Wasserman Schultz, Friday, June 28th, 2013.

Ruling: True | Details

Mostly False
"This president spends 30 times as much money on global warming research as he does on weather forecasting and warning."
Jim Bridenstine, Tuesday, June 11th, 2013.

Ruling: Mostly False | Details
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Fact-checking recent claims about climate change


For ignorant Tea Brains.


Related rulings:
Mostly False
Surface temperatures on Earth "have stabilized."
Marco Rubio, Tuesday, May 20th, 2014.

Ruling: Mostly False

Mostly True
Cap and trade legislation "was originally a Republican idea."
Debbie Wasserman Schultz, Tuesday, May 13th, 2014.

Ruling: Mostly True | Details

Mostly True
"Virtually no Republican" in Washington accepts climate change science.
Jerry Brown, Sunday, May 18th, 2014.

Ruling: Mostly True | Details

False
Human activity is not "causing these dramatic changes to our climate."
Marco Rubio, Sunday, May 11th, 2014.

Ruling: False | Details

Half-True
Americans "bought into climate change" in 2004-06, but then most "began wandering away from this issue."
Joe Scarborough, Monday, May 12th, 2014.

Ruling: Half-True | Details

True
The National Science Foundation awarded $700,000 to fund a climate change musical.
Lamar Smith, Wednesday, March 26th, 2014.

Ruling: True | Details

Mostly False
Earth "has not warmed for the last 17 years."
Patrick Moore, Tuesday, March 11th, 2014.

Ruling: Mostly False | Details

Mostly True
In a poll, "53 percent of young Republican voters . . . under age 35 said that they would describe a climate [change] denier as 'ignorant,' 'out of touch' or 'crazy.'"
Sheldon Whitehouse, Wednesday, November 13th, 2013.

Ruling: Mostly True | Details

Mostly True
Sen. Marco Rubio "refuses to accept the basic science" on climate change and is "a climate change denier."
Organizing for Action, Friday, August 9th, 2013.

Ruling: Mostly True | Details

True
In South Florida, "we've had nine inches of sea-level rise since the 1920s."
Debbie Wasserman Schultz, Friday, June 28th, 2013.

Ruling: True | Details

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"This president spends 30 times as much money on global warming research as he does on weather forecasting and warning."
Jim Bridenstine, Tuesday, June 11th, 2013.

Ruling: Mostly False | Details

The IEA said it was necessary to recalculate all global-temperature data in order to assess the scale of such exaggeration.
Climategatekeeping: Siberia « Climate Audit

when "The number of [Siberian] stations increased from 8 in 1901 to 23 in 1951 and then decreased to 12 from 1989 to present only four (4) stations, those at Irkutsk, Bratsk, Chita and Kirensk, cover the entire 20th century.
IEA analysts say climatologists use the data of stations located in large populated centers that are influenced by the urban-warming effect more frequently than the correct data of remote stations…
The scale of global warming was exaggerated due to temperature distortions for Russia accounting for 12.5% of the world’s land mass.
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Feds close 600 weather stations amid criticism they're situated to report warming thanks to temperature readings from sweltering parking lots, airports and other locations that distort the true state of the climate.
Indeed, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration has closed some 600 out of nearly 9,000 weather stations over the past two years that it has deemed problematic or unnecessary, after a long campaign by one critic highlighting the problem of using unreliable data.
The agency says the closures will help improve gathering of weather data, but critics like meterologist and blogger Anthony Watts say it is too little, too late.
Distorted data? Feds close 600 weather stations amid criticism they're situated to report warming | Fox News

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Before satellites the over 11,000 weather stations around the world measuring land, air and sea temperatures, as well as satellites, ships and aircraft that also take measurements temperature readings were done by humans looking at themometers that used mercury levels to determine the temperatures. These readings had variations due to human errors.
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What's amusing is it is based on a SINGLE tide gauge. Cherry picked data of the first order.
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Or are there as this attached chart show:
10,257 Climate surveys sent to "NOT MILLIONS"... of WHICH
3,146 returned their surveys of which
77 were climate scientists of which
42 said "yes"

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About that overwhelming 97-98% number of scientists that say there is a climate consensus? | Watts Up With That?
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What's amusing is it is based on a SINGLE tide gauge. Cherry picked data of the first order.
Speaking of cherry picking, how many trees did Michael Mann chop down?
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Climate myths: CO2 isn't the most important greenhouse gas

Climate myths: CO2 isn't the most important greenhouse gas - environment - 16 May 2007 - New Scientist

Water is a major greenhouse gas too, but its level in the atmosphere depends on temperature. Excess water vapour rains out in days. Excess CO2 accumulates, warming the atmosphere, which raises water vapour levels and causes further warming.

Is water a far more important a greenhouse gas than carbon dioxide, as some claim? It is not surprising that there is a lot of confusion about this - the answer is far from simple.

Firstly, there is the greenhouse effect, and then there is global warming. The greenhouse effect is caused by certain gases (and clouds) absorbing and re-emitting the infrared radiating from Earth's surface. It currently keeps our planet 20°C to 30°C warmer than it would be otherwise. Global warming is the rise in temperatures caused by an increase in the levels of greenhouse gases due to human activity.

Water vapour is by far the most important contributor to the greenhouse effect. Pinning down its precise contribution is tricky, not least because the absorption spectra of different greenhouse gases overlap.
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Ruling: Mostly False

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Cap and trade legislation "was originally a Republican idea."
Debbie Wasserman Schultz, Tuesday, May 13th, 2014.

Ruling: Mostly True | Details

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"Virtually no Republican" in Washington accepts climate change science.
Jerry Brown, Sunday, May 18th, 2014.

Ruling: Mostly True | Details

False
Human activity is not "causing these dramatic changes to our climate."
Marco Rubio, Sunday, May 11th, 2014.

Ruling: False | Details

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Americans "bought into climate change" in 2004-06, but then most "began wandering away from this issue."
Joe Scarborough, Monday, May 12th, 2014.

Ruling: Half-True | Details

True
The National Science Foundation awarded $700,000 to fund a climate change musical.
Lamar Smith, Wednesday, March 26th, 2014.

Ruling: True | Details

Mostly False
Earth "has not warmed for the last 17 years."
Patrick Moore, Tuesday, March 11th, 2014.

Ruling: Mostly False | Details

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In a poll, "53 percent of young Republican voters . . . under age 35 said that they would describe a climate [change] denier as 'ignorant,' 'out of touch' or 'crazy.'"
Sheldon Whitehouse, Wednesday, November 13th, 2013.

Ruling: Mostly True | Details

Mostly True
Sen. Marco Rubio "refuses to accept the basic science" on climate change and is "a climate change denier."
Organizing for Action, Friday, August 9th, 2013.

Ruling: Mostly True | Details

True
In South Florida, "we've had nine inches of sea-level rise since the 1920s."
Debbie Wasserman Schultz, Friday, June 28th, 2013.

Ruling: True | Details

Mostly False
"This president spends 30 times as much money on global warming research as he does on weather forecasting and warning."
Jim Bridenstine, Tuesday, June 11th, 2013.

Ruling: Mostly False | Details
A libtard posting supposed facts, how hilarious. Idiot.
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