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The Japanese (contrary to what the devotees of political correctness claim)had a very effective intelligence net in America.]

NO Japanese-Americans were ever convicted of treason, espionage, or sabotage during WWII. None.

Many Japanese-Americans died fighting for this country even after having been thrown into that scumbag FDR's concentration camps.
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"The guards occasionally fired warning shots when people got too close to the barbed-wire fence around the camp. One day a 63-year-old man, Mr. Wakasa, was walking toward the barbed-wire fence. A guard yelled at him to stop, but he did not hear or understand. The guard shot and killed him. "


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A controversial and taboo topic in Japan to this day...the Japanese have never admitted to this nor apologized for it.]


That is, of course, not true. Japan has acknowledged and apologized several times for it. Books about the subject are sold in major bookstores across the country, and reparations were paid by the Japanese government back in the 60s. Private citizens in the 90s raised additional funds to pay directly to individual women who were victims of the wartime practice.



You are wrong again, ignorant ****.
You have your opinion and you are entitled to it.........unfortunately --that is all you have and most on here know it is worthless. You are confused to say the least --consistently on the short end of the stick.

Now for more truth on this mattter--

http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Asia-...comfort-women-
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The link above did not work.................Comfort women - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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This story illustrates the stupidity of allowing these guys to stay on the court until they die.....what happens is that they get old and senile....not even to mention some of them are not even qualified when appointed.

In this Scalia refers to Roosevelt's wartime policy of internment as being wrong....thus showing that even Supreme Ct. Justices are susceptible to politically correct propaganda.

Now for the truth>>>>>>>>>>>>>Michelle Malkin | » IN DEFENSE OF INTERNMENT
Nonsense.

This is what happens when right wing extremists are appointed to the Court.
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More on the Comfort Women Controversy>>>>>>>Korea to Japan: Time running out for 'comfort women' resolution - CSMonitor.com
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As they say, anything that doesn't have a 0% chance of occuring, projecting over time has a 100% chance of occuring. If internment camps aren't outlawed, they can and will happen again.
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The Japanese (contrary to what the devotees of political correctness claim)had a very effective intelligence net in America.]

NO Japanese-Americans were ever convicted of treason, espionage, or sabotage during WWII. None.

Many Japanese-Americans died fighting for this country even after having been thrown into that scumbag FDR's concentration camps.
The Japanese had a world wide and very efficent spy network...for one to believe as you do that they had no spies in America is ridiculous......it has been documented and posted previously that the American Government did not want to excite or rile up the American populance towards the Japanese Americans...fearing riots and vigilante justice....they in fact had the names of the japanese spies but refused to release that information to the public.

List of Japanese Spies>>>>>>>>>>List of Japanese spies, 1930?1945 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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All too often, people who stand out and look different become the targets for persecution. Happened against orthodox Jews and gypsies in Nazi Germany, Japanese in the US (but not Germans, Italians, and other 'white' ethnicites,) and again in modern America against Latino immigrants. When ever someone stands out, whoever's in charge or in the majority will often use them as scapegoats.
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The Truth of The Matter

The Japanese Internment has been written off by most people as another sad, racist, chapter of our history that was wholly without merit.

However, Michelle Malkin argues in her new book, “In Defense of Internment: The Case for ‘Racial Profiling’ in World War 2 and the War on Terror,” that things are not as black and white as we’ve been led to believe. To the contrary, Malkin argues that “the national security measures taken during World War 2 were justifiable, given what was known and not known at the time”.


In order to prove this assertion, Malkin paints a picture, quite effectively I might add, of a situation in which the Japanese internment is one of several not very pleasant options that Roosevelt had to choose between. Here’s what I consider to be the crux of the case that Malkin makes….

– The attack on Pearl Harbor severely damaged our Pacific forces and brought America into WW2 – on the side that was currently losing. And this was not like the Gulf War or Vietnam, we could not simply choose to “go home” and end the war. Losing would have likely meant — at some point — marauding Axis armies marching through the countryside raping, murdering, and pillaging everything in their path. The stakes don’t get any higher than they were in a conflict like World War 2.

– On December 11th of 1941, the freighter SS Lahaina was sunk by a Japanese sub off of Honolulu. Another Japanese sub sank the SS Manini in Hawaiian waters 6 days later. On December 18th, another sub sank the SS Prusa near the “big island”. Several other December attacks occurred within 20 miles of the California and Oregon coastlines. On February 23rd, a Japanese sub shelled the Ellwood oil fields in Goleta, California. At least one “high ranking Japanese military official–Admiral Tamon Yamaguchi…was eager to carry the war to the U.S. mainland”.

Secretary of War Henry Stimson also wrote this in his diary on February 10, 1942

“…I think it is quite within the bounds of possibility that if the Japanese should get naval dominance in the Pacific they would try an invasion of this country; and, if they did, we would have a tough job meeting them.”

In other words, Japanese forces were close and the danger to our homeland was very real.

– Richard Kotoshirodo, a Japanese American and John Mikami, who was Japanese, gathered extensive amounts of information while they were spying that was very helpful to the Japanese forces that attacked Pearl Harbor. Japanese-Americans (Yoshio and Irene Harada) aided a Japanese pilot who landed at Niihau island, Hawaii after being shot down while attacking Pearl Harbor.

Cables decoded from the Japanese in May 1941 said in part,

“We have already established contacts with absolutely reliable Japanese in the San Pedro and San Diego area, who will keep a close watch on all shipments of airplanes and other war materials…”

That same cable also stated that the Japanese had Japanese-American spies in the Army and that they were watching traffic crossing the American / Mexican border.

A January 3rd, 1942 army MID memo states, “‘there can be no doubt that’ most of the leaders within the Japanese espionage network of Japanese clubs, business groups, and labor organizations “continue to function as key operatives for the Japanese government along the West Coast”.

So we knew that the Japanese had a spy network in America before Pearl Harbor and we believed it was still operating after the attacks.

– While we clearly couldn’t trust citizens of Japan (or other Axis nations) to run around unsupervised while we were in the middle of a fight to the finish with their home-countries (hence the 11,229 Japanese citizens, 10,905 German citizens, 3,728 Italian citizens and a few others who were rounded up and interned), American born citizens were of course a different matter. Certainly, most of them were loyal. Curtis Munson who was been sent to investigate the issue, estimated that 90-98% of Japanese-Americans could be trusted (although he had his doubts about 9000 Kibei — Japanese-Americans schooled in Japan).

However, Munson also noted that even a very small number of saboteurs could do a cataclysmic damage to the war effort,

“…The harbor at San Pedro could be razed by fire completely by four men with grenades and a little study in one night. Dams could be blown and half of lower California might actually die of thirst. One railway bridge at the exit from the mountains in some cases could tie up three or four main railroads…”

Here’s more on the damage that could be caused by saboteurs from Provost Marshal General Allen Gullion,

“If production for war is seriously delayed by sabotage in the West Coastal states, we very possibly shall lose the war….from reliable reports from military and other sources, the danger of Japanese-inspired espionage is great.”

– America and other nations traditionally interned “enemy aliens” during wars. For example, in World War 1 more than 6300 “European-born civilians” were interned. Moreover, Mexico and Canada both chose to move ethnic Japanese away from their coasts. Also, the Supreme Court of the United States ruled that interning Japanese citizens was constitutional.

– Furthermore, Malkin revealed that in 1944, disturbingly “28 percent (of draft age Japanese-American evacuees) refused to swear allegiance to their country or forswear allegiance to the emperor of Japan” and when given the opportunity, 5,620 Japanese-Americans chose to abandon their U.S. citizenship.

– Last but not least, there were no easy options for dealing with the situation. Mere monitoring of suspect Japanese citizens would have likely be too difficult given the number of people involved, the consequences of failure, and the demands of a world war. Criminal prosecutions of suspected spies would have been nearly impossible because intelligence sources couldn’t be revealed and it would be extraordinarily difficult to prove someone who was say simply watching ship movements (so they could later report them) was committing a crime. Another possibility would have been some sort of “quasi-judicial military tribunal,” but there would have been constitutional questions about that and it couldn’t possibly be as effective as evacuating and/or interning Japanese-Americans along the West Coast.
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All too often, people who stand out and look different become the targets for persecution. Happened against orthodox Jews and gypsies in Nazi Germany, Japanese in the US (but not Germans, Italians, and other 'white' ethnicites,) and again in modern America against Latino immigrants. When ever someone stands out, whoever's in charge or in the majority will often use them as scapegoats.
A very shallow, lightweight and mostly wrong observation...though typical of the crap one sees on this board from unkotare and others of his ilk.

First of all...it was not just orthodox jews that were sent to death camps...Hitler persecuted all the Jews many of which were so germanized it was almost impossible to tell the difference between them and Germans...in fact they considered themselves loyal Germans and many had won medals for fighting for Germany in World War I.

Also you reveal your ignorance of the fact that Germans and Intalians were interned in America during World War II.
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Yes Horatio..........Germans and Italians were interned in America during WWII

State apologizes for mistreatment of Italian residents during WWII - Los Angeles Times
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The German Internment in America................yes Horatio...........Germans were interned in America during the war and have never received an apology or reparations like were given to the japanese.


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All too often, people who stand out and look different become the targets for persecution. Happened against orthodox Jews and gypsies in Nazi Germany, Japanese in the US (but not Germans, Italians, and other 'white' ethnicites,) and again in modern America against Latino immigrants. When ever someone stands out, whoever's in charge or in the majority will often use them as scapegoats.
A very shallow, lightweight and mostly wrong observation...though typical of the crap one sees on this board from unkotare and others of his ilk.

First of all...it was not just orthodox jews that were sent to death camps...Hitler persecuted all the Jews many of which were so germanized it was almost impossible to tell the difference between them and Germans...in fact they considered themselves loyal Germans and many had won medals for fighting for Germany in World War I.

Also you reveal your ignorance of the fact that Germans and Intalians were interned in America during World War II.
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