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Old 12-05-2013, 11:48 AM
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ANother govt shutdown coming on Jan. 15 if no budget is agreed by then?

Here we go again.

The last time the government shut down, Republicans caved as usual, and agreed to a temporary continuation of spending to keep the government open for a short time, to give eveyone more time to reach an agreement.

Well, those deadlines are approaching fast, and no effort has been made to reach any agreements. Obama and the Democrat have continued their "We will not negotiate" stance, and the media has kept ready its normal "It's all Republicans' fault" mantra, along with the standard "Stop talking about this, nobody cares any more", as though that would make deadlines go away somehow.

Most of the days between now and the deadlines, are holiday dates for Congress. Is there any real reason to think the government shut down won't resume on Jan. 15 - the date they agreed to have a budget ready?

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Crunch Time: Congress running up against partial shutdown deadline, again | Fox News

Crunch Time: Congress running up against partial shutdown deadline, again

Published December 04, 2013
FoxNews.com

'Tis the season of important dates -- Thanksgiving, Hanukkah, Christmas, New Year's, government shutdown ...

Yes, it's that time of year -- again. Just two months after the last partial government shutdown ended, lawmakers are once again struggling to meet the deadline for funding the government.

As part of the short-term agreement struck in mid-October, Congress gave itself until Jan. 15 to pass a budget, and until Dec. 13 to reach a tentative deal at the committee level. It's Dec. 4, and despite weeks of talks the budget negotiations have only crept forward. And Congress really only has five more days this month to do anything. While the House is in session, the Senate doesn't return until next week -- and Speaker John Boehner plans to adjourn the House for holiday recess next Friday.

"The speaker is very serious about us being out of here on the 13th," House Majority Leader Eric Cantor, R-Va., said.

There may be little stomach on Capitol Hill for another shutdown showdown. But no bill is yet on the table that could avert one.

This time around, the debate centers around the spending levels for 2014, and the so-called sequester. Republicans want to hold down spending, while Democrats want to boost that number.

With so little time to cut a deal, some lawmakers are talking about passing another stopgap spending bill to buy more time to negotiate.
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The Republicans have a slight advantage this time, and will most likely put forth a "clean" resolution that Obama and the Democrats will not like. Last time around, Obama and the Democrats stated over and over again that a "clean" resolution was the proper course, and chastized the Republicans for not putting one forth.

Their own words will bury them this time around, as they no longer desire a "clean" resolution.
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What the fuck do they want? Kill our science programs, cut education, cut more into infrastructure.

They offer nothing besides bs.
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What the fuck do they want? Kill our science programs, cut education, cut more into infrastructure.

They offer nothing besides bs.
Other than any infrastructure involved in interstate commerce, where exactly does the Federal Government have any authority whatosever to fund any of those things?
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I fail to see how shutting down the government again is going to make anyone like either party more.
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With any real luck it will take them another month to work out a deal extending the sequester.

Given their history, better these assholes do nothing than come together.
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With any real luck it will take them another month to work out a deal extending the sequester.

Given their history, better these assholes do nothing than come together.
Yeah,

Don't drive over that bridge or expect your children to have high paying science jobs.
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What the fuck do they want? Kill our science programs, cut education, cut more into infrastructure.

They offer nothing besides bs.
Other than any infrastructure involved in interstate commerce, where exactly does the Federal Government have any authority whatosever to fund any of those things?
The freeways/highways

Of course you're against them.
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With any real luck it will take them another month to work out a deal extending the sequester.

Given their history, better these assholes do nothing than come together.
Yeah,

Don't drive over that bridge or expect your children to have high paying science jobs.
We've been paying for road repairs all along with gas taxes...the government however has taken that money and used it for other things.

As for our children? We currently spend more per pupil than any country on earth and our kids are falling further and further behind the rest of the world. Don't hold your breath hoping that little Johnny is going to turn into a scientist because right now he's having a hard time mastering simple math skills.
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Name a first world nation without a freeway/highway/autobahn???
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ANother govt shutdown coming on Jan. 15 if no budget is agreed by then?
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Well, what was in the 18th century no longer works well for a first world nation today.

Name a first world nation without a freeway/highway/autobahn???
Name a first world nation without education for all
Name a first world nation without a safety net
Name a first world nation without business regulations for all states at the federal level

What you're fighting for is just down right sad.
Well I see the far left talking points are in full gear now.

Just more proof that the far left has no clue beyond their programming.
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