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Old 03-12-2013, 09:06 AM
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His budget uses the same cuts in medicare he campaigned against and plans to repeal by repppealing "Obamacare".


it still doesnt add up under scrutitny
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Old 03-12-2013, 09:06 AM
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Paul Ryan has retreated even further into fantasy land. The mystery is, what are his motivations?
Good article.

The Ryan budget is about ideology, not finances | Jay Bookman
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Again, let’s be clear: The Ryan budget is not a response to our fiscal situation. It uses that situation as an excuse to continue a philosophical debate reaching back at least 80 years in this country, back to the founding of Social Security. The Republican Party fought Social Security back then, and since then it has tried repeatedly to kill the program, most recently with President Bush’s effort to privatize it.

“Never in the history of the world has any measure been brought here so insidiously designed as to prevent business recovery, to enslave workers and to prevent any possibility of the employers providing work for the people,” one GOP congressman said in 1935, referring to Social Security. The party’s basic message and rhetoric — government enslavement, economic ruin, etc., — hasn’t changed much since.
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Here is the Chairman's Mark from Ryan's bill: http://budget.house.gov/UploadedFile...mark_FY013.pdf

Look for yourself.

ETA: Here is Obama's budget for the same period: http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/defa...ssets/32_1.xls
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Old 03-12-2013, 09:08 AM
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Paul Ryan has put a balanced budget on the table, and now he will stand behind it and take questions and punches and kicks to the groin.

Finally, a Republican with some balls.
Republicans have always had balls. It's the brains they're missing.
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Old 03-12-2013, 09:11 AM
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Here is the Chairman's Mark from Ryan's bill: http://budget.house.gov/UploadedFile...mark_FY013.pdf

Look for yourself.
Watched all 9 hours of it. You?

That document is from last year by the way. This budget will be for FY014.
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Quote: Originally Posted by NYcarbineer View Post
Paul Ryan has retreated even further into fantasy land. The mystery is, what are his motivations?
A return to those "good ol' days" o'.....

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I see Ryan has once again done his job. The one he was elected to do. Now only if Harry was willing to do the same for once......
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I love how the FOX reporter reacted to Ryan claiming he will repeal Obamacare.

that aint going to happen
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Here is the Chairman's Mark from Ryan's bill: http://budget.house.gov/UploadedFile...mark_FY013.pdf

Look for yourself.

ETA: Here is Obama's budget for the same period: http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/defa...ssets/32_1.xls
The President's budget proposal and the Congress's budget's are in completely different formats, found that out recently. Oddly it is kind of like comparing apples and oranges on the same subject. I hope this analogy is not too off, besides being a sports analogy, which I hate.

It is like the President writes the rule book for every action on the field and then the Congress draws all the lines on the ground.
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Here is the Chairman's Mark from Ryan's bill: http://budget.house.gov/UploadedFile...mark_FY013.pdf

Look for yourself.
Watched all 9 hours of it. You?

That document is from last year by the way. This budget will be for FY014.
Yep. That was from last August.

Here is the new one: http://budget.house.gov/uploadedfiles/fy14budget.pdf
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An annual rite of spring...

An unattainable Paul Ryan budget........can baseball be far behind?
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A quick glance at Paul Ryan's budget, and it appears it still runs us up to a $20 trillion debt by 2020, though he was careful not to put it in black and white.

However, it can be gleaned by looking at the "Debt Held by Public" figure in Summary Table 1.

His budget balances in 2023.
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under RYAN numbers.

others say it doesnt balence
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