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Hitler mobilized his whole country, so who was left to worry about having a gun? There were women and some old men. Why would Hitler even care if they had guns, when he's surrounded by people who do? It wasn't like Hitler needed to force obedience out of the German people. If he wanted the guns rounded up, they would have been.
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No, the Jews were carrying their guns to the gas chamber, because Hitler wanted to give them a fair chance.

Try to focus on disarming the populace, fool! Why would Hitler give a damn if the populace had weapons? There was nothing but old men, women and kids left. I think the Nazis could handle that.

Where do you think this focus on Hitler originates? It involves the stupid idea that National Socialism is socialist, because some right-wing idiot claimed it was to distance themselves from fascism. Let's ignore the historical fact that socialists and communists all over Europe went to Spain to fight against fascism, because right-winger are too ****ing dumb to think. They'll always bite something stupid and take it hook, line and sinker.
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Hitler loosened gun regulations on ALL citizens of Germany, including close to 100,000 1/2 and 1/4 Jews.

He took a big risk, as these loosened gun laws could have been used to arm a revolution against him.
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Wait, are you claiming that Jews were allowed to own firearms?
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Hitler loosened gun regulations on ALL citizens of Germany, including close to 100,000 1/2 and 1/4 Jews.

He took a big risk, as these loosened gun laws could have been used to arm a revolution against him.
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Wait, are you claiming that Jews were allowed to own firearms?
I claimed exactly what I meant to claim.

close to 100,000 1/2 Jews and 1/4 Jews were Reich citizens and therefore allowed to own firearms.

this even includes some possibly full Jews, who were given Certificates of Aryan Blood by Hitler himself.
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Hitler loosened gun regulations on ALL citizens of Germany, including close to 100,000 1/2 and 1/4 Jews.

He took a big risk, as these loosened gun laws could have been used to arm a revolution against him.
@Hoffstra

Wait, are you claiming that Jews were allowed to own firearms?
I claimed exactly what I meant to claim.

close to 100,000 1/2 Jews and 1/4 Jews were Reich citizens and therefore allowed to own firearms.

this even includes some possibly full Jews, who were given Certificates of Aryan Blood by Hitler himself.
So all those millions in the concentration camps were permitted to keep and bear arms?

Were those millions of Jews in the ghettos prior to concentration camps also permitted to keep and bear arms?
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So all those millions in the concentration camps were permitted to keep and bear arms?
don't read too good, huh?

I said close to 100,000 1/2 Jews and 1/4 Jews, who were German citizens.

They include Luftwaffe General Erhard Milche, who was likely 100% Jewish.

These people were 1st and 2nd Degree Mischlinge.
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so all those millions in the concentration camps were permitted to keep and bear arms?
don't read too good, huh?

I said close to 100,000 1/2 jews and 1/4 jews, who were german citizens.

They include luftwaffe general erhard milche, who was likely 100% jewish.

These people were 1st and 2nd degree mischlinge.
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So, let me make sure I've got this straight.

The MOST EGREGIOUS LIE you're talking about is people not accepting the "Hitler disarmed" meme?
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The Nazis loosened gun laws for all German citizens, including close to 100,000 1st Degree and 2nd Degree Mischlinge, who were 1/2 and 1/4 Jews.
I asked you once before.... So what?

They took guns from the people they meant to destroy -- Jews.

It's fine to leave guns in the hands of allies and those too gutless to use them but they took them from the people who needed them most.... Jews.

Dictators all think alike...

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The Obama administration has greeted the response to president’s threat of an executive order to bypass Congress and implement gun control measures as reminiscent of dictators, as hysteria.

But such comparisons are not easy to dismiss. Lenin stated “One man with a gun can control 100 without one.” Stalin, his successor declared, “If the opposition disarms, well and good. If it refuses to disarm, we shall disarm it ourselves.” When the Kulaks refused, Stalin instituted his own “executive order,” and they were helpless as the state mowed them down.


But this disarming of the population was not exclusive to the Russians. Mao Tze Tung declared “All political power comes from the barrel of a gun. The communist party must command all the guns, that way, no guns can ever be used to command the party.” Fidel Castro sounds eerily like those Americans who state that automatic and semi-automatic weapons are of no use for hunting nor defending their home when he says,”Guns, for what?” in response to the populace’s resistance to his gun control policies.

For those who think it hysterical to even dare to compare these sentiments with liberals, they should consider what has been said. Dianne Feinstein, stated in 1995, years before Newton: “If I could have banned them all – ‘Mr. and Mrs. America turn in your guns’ – I would have!” Then-President Clinton, who would send armed federal troops into the unarmed home of those sheltering Cuban refugee Elian Gonzalez, stated in 1993, “We can’t be so fixated on our desire to preserve the rights of ordinary Americans.” Attorney General Janet Reno, who would send in black helicopters at the Koresh compound in Waco, Texas, subscribed to a step by step process (to be fair, something Stalin did not do) and was quite clear in her ultimate objective when she said, “Waiting periods are only a step. Registration is only a step. The prohibition of private firearms is the goal.”

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I asked you once before.... So what?

They took guns from the people they meant to destroy -- Jews.

It's fine to leave guns in the hands of allies and those too gutless to use them but they took them from the people who needed them most.... Jews...
they left guns in the hands of close to possibly 100,000 people who had Jewish relatives and loved-ones.

let alone millions of other Germans who could have used these weapons to stage an anti-Nazi revolution.

many Germans voted against the Nazis in 1933.

Hitler took a HUGE risk by loosening gun laws.
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I asked you once before.... So what?

They took guns from the people they meant to destroy -- Jews.

It's fine to leave guns in the hands of allies and those too gutless to use them but they took them from the people who needed them most.... Jews...
they left guns in the hands of close to possibly 100,000 people who had Jewish relatives and loved-ones.

let alone millions of other Germans who could have used these weapons to stage an anti-Nazi revolution.

many Germans voted against the Nazis in 1933.

Hitler took a HUGE risk by loosening gun laws.
Stop the lie right now.
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I asked you once before.... So what?

They took guns from the people they meant to destroy -- Jews.

It's fine to leave guns in the hands of allies and those too gutless to use them but they took them from the people who needed them most.... Jews...
they left guns in the hands of close to possibly 100,000 people who had Jewish relatives and loved-ones.

let alone millions of other Germans who could have used these weapons to stage an anti-Nazi revolution.

many Germans voted against the Nazis in 1933.

Hitler took a HUGE risk by loosening gun laws.
You are a liar.

I think I know you.

You are some one else on this board.
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Stop the lie right now.
its not a lie.

its a fact.

The Nazis loosened gun laws from where they were under the Weimar Republic.

Mischlinge, who were citizens with 2 or 1 Jewish grandparent, were Reich citizens.

Under the Nazis new gun laws, registration wasn't required for longguns and pistol permits were extended in duration.

These loosened laws, could have been used to arm a revolution against Hitler.

Hundreds of thousands of good Germans voted against the Nazis in 1933, and remained anti-Nazi throughout the war.

Hitler took a huge risk, by loosening gun laws on these Germans...and on German citizens who were 1/2 or 1/4 Jewish.
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Although the 1938 law no longer required an acquisition license for rifles and
shotguns, but only for handguns..


http://www.stephenhalbrook.com/article-nazilaw.pdf

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yes kids, the Nazis did loosen gun laws.
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Stop the lie right now.
its not a lie.

its a fact.

The Nazis loosened gun laws from where they were under the Weimar Republic.

Mischlinge, who were citizens with 2 or 1 Jewish grandparent, were Reich citizens.

Under the Nazis new gun laws, registration wasn't required for longguns and pistol permits were extended in duration.

These loosened laws, could have been used to arm a revolution against Hitler.

Hundreds of thousands of good Germans voted against the Nazis in 1933, and remained anti-Nazi throughout the war.

Hitler took a huge risk, by loosening gun laws on these Germans...and on German citizens who were 1/2 or 1/4 Jewish.
My father in law is a man called Josef Trikojat.
He is German.

Seriously do you want to dance?
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