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This is a discussion on Detroit has some suggestions for who the emergency manager should be within the Politics forums, part of the US Discussion category; Quote: Originally Posted by novasteve Quote: Originally Posted by rdean Have any of these "emergency managers" worked out so far? Taking away democracy and replacing ...
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| Have any of these "emergency managers" worked out so far? Taking away democracy and replacing it with Republican shills? Every time you let the right wing run anything, it always ends up in scandal and fraud and criminal charges. They can't help themselves. They are an odious bunch. Former Emergency Manager Charged with Tax Fraud Michigan?s Emergency Manager meetings not subject to Open Meetings Act, opponent faces federal indictments The Scandal of Michigan's Emergency Managers
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| So let's take a look at some of these "esteemed" former Detroit mayors (all DEMOCRATS, of course). Kwame Kilpatrick (2002-2008): Kwame Kilpatrick?s 14 Most Scandalous Moments - Black Enterprise Kwame Kilpatrick - Top 10 Political Sex Scandals - TIME Kwame Kilpatrick Sex Scandal Kilpatrick pleads guilty, resigns | Detroit Free Press | freep.com Coleman Young (1974-94): Detroit Mayor Linked to Scandal Figure - Los Angeles Times Snarled in Corruption Traffic - TIME Detroit's Collapse: The Young Years - National American history | Examiner.com The Line of Demarcation by Karen De Coster Roman Gribbs (1970-74): The Pingree Street Sixteen Go On Trial | Old News Jerome Cavanagh (1962-70): http://www.rightmichigan.com/story/2011/12/21/191126/29 Last edited by TruthSeeker56; 03-03-2013 at 08:52 AM. |
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| Just so I understand. The Republicans here are defending "take overs" and they have no faith in democracy. Perhaps that's why they support "voter suppression"?
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| The words "I understand" have no place in any of your posts, Deany.
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| Voter suppression is not the problem with Detroit. Liberals are not the problem with Detroit Conservatives are not the problem with Detroit. Democrats are not the problem with Detroit. Republicans are not the problem with Detroit. The problem with Detroit is a false concept that people should be able to get something for nothing, and are entitled to what they have not earned. Whomever is chosen to fix Detroit will do so ONLY by encouraging private sector growth, discouraging the entitlement mentality, and re-establishing a work ethic that does not depend on contributions by others. |
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| Voter suppression is not the problem with Detroit. Liberals are not the problem with Detroit Conservatives are not the problem with Detroit. Democrats are not the problem with Detroit. Republicans are not the problem with Detroit. The problem with Detroit is a false concept that people should be able to get something for nothing, and are entitled to what they have not earned. Whomever is chosen to fix Detroit will do so ONLY by encouraging private sector growth, discouraging the entitlement mentality, and re-establishing a work ethic that does not depend on contributions by others.
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| So the residents got some temporary help from 15 million dollars that none of them worked for; none of them earned. How much better would it have been rather than hand out that 15 million, to cut federal spending in non essential areas in order to give 15 million in tax breaks or other incentives for businesses to establish, expand, and hire folks and thereby reduce that long line. Then help the very few left who are unable to work. This used to be the way everybody thought it should be in America. Now we seem to think people should be paid not to work. And that insanity has produced Detroits all across the country. |
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| So the residents got some temporary help from 15 million dollars that none of them worked for; none of them earned. How much better would it have been rather than hand out that 15 million, to cut federal spending in non essential areas in order to give 15 million in tax breaks or other incentives for businesses to establish, expand, and hire folks and thereby reduce that long line. Then help the very few left who are unable to work. This used to be the way everybody thought it should be in America. Now we seem to think people should be paid not to work. And that insanity has produced Detroits all across the country.
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| So the residents got some temporary help from 15 million dollars that none of them worked for; none of them earned. How much better would it have been rather than hand out that 15 million, to cut federal spending in non essential areas in order to give 15 million in tax breaks or other incentives for businesses to establish, expand, and hire folks and thereby reduce that long line. Then help the very few left who are unable to work. This used to be the way everybody thought it should be in America. Now we seem to think people should be paid not to work. And that insanity has produced Detroits all across the country. Likewise with government entitlements that depend on future taxes to pay. In 1950 there were 16.5 workers paying into the system for every Social Security recipient. In 2005, that number had dropped to 3.3 workers for every Social Security recipient, and that number will soon drop to 2.2 workers and how long will it be before the recipients outnumber the workers? It simply is not sustainable. Then you add on Medicaid, Medicare, Obamacare, and other entitlements, all that drain the economy of its vitality and productivity, and it is no wonder that the debt clock has passed 16 trillion and is accelerating at an alarming rate. The legislators don't care because they are making themselves all millionaires as we speak and they figure they'll be out of Congress and immune to criticism when those chickens arrive. It is all built as a house of cards that has to come crashing down sooner or later. Unless we all, liberals and conservatives alike, admit it and join together to fix it, it is inevitable that the entire United States will eventually become a Detroit. Last edited by Foxfyre; 03-03-2013 at 10:44 AM. |
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| No question about it that Detroit needs outside management. However, the anti-auto-union chimera is from the nutball playbook. The facts prove that management destroyed the US automobile business by falling behind two important demand curves starting in the 1970s then staying there: quality and style. Unions had nothing to do with it, as the Obama bailout proves beyond a shadow of a doubt. On the other hand government unions are the work of the devil. Detroit's public bureaucracy remains a disgrace to public service. It is overpaid, underworked and there are no effective measures of ethics. What needs to happen in Detroit is some kind of bankruptcy to throw out current administrators, void contracts and pensions and so on, then do a complete rebuild.
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| Have any of these "emergency managers" worked out so far? Taking away democracy and replacing it with Republican shills? Every time you let the right wing run anything, it always ends up in scandal and fraud and criminal charges. They can't help themselves. They are an odious bunch. Former Emergency Manager Charged with Tax Fraud Michigan?s Emergency Manager meetings not subject to Open Meetings Act, opponent faces federal indictments The Scandal of Michigan's Emergency Managers For that is called "screwing the pooch."
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| Have any of these "emergency managers" worked out so far? Taking away democracy and replacing it with Republican shills? Every time you let the right wing run anything, it always ends up in scandal and fraud and criminal charges. They can't help themselves. They are an odious bunch. Former Emergency Manager Charged with Tax Fraud Michigan?s Emergency Manager meetings not subject to Open Meetings Act, opponent faces federal indictments The Scandal of Michigan's Emergency Managers For that is called "screwing the pooch." What government can do is remove the entitlements, remove all unnecessary regulation, and provide a tax structure and other incentive that will allow the private sector to take the risk and fix the problem. If Detroits new manager understands that, he or she will have a shot at making things better. If he or she continues to take the 'easy way' out by kicking problems on down the road, it will only get worse. |
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| Have any of these "emergency managers" worked out so far? Taking away democracy and replacing it with Republican shills? Every time you let the right wing run anything, it always ends up in scandal and fraud and criminal charges. They can't help themselves. They are an odious bunch. Former Emergency Manager Charged with Tax Fraud Michigan?s Emergency Manager meetings not subject to Open Meetings Act, opponent faces federal indictments The Scandal of Michigan's Emergency Managers For that is called "screwing the pooch."
__________________ Pulaski, Tennessee - The Ku Klux Klan officially disbanded today claiming that the Republican Party has co-opted all of their ideas concerning race, immigration and religion and that there was no longer any need for their existence. Dumbest liberal statements in USMB: #2) Demand creates jobs. From bripat9643 06-09-2013, 11:07 PM. The posts following this statement are hilarious. Bush Tax Cuts were supposed to be temporary, you know, when we had a surplus. |
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