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Old 01-29-2013, 09:24 AM
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Really?

So let's get this straight. Nixon torpedoed a peace settlement in Vietnam that would have ended the war in 1968. He engaged in an illegal bombing of Cambodia, spied on Americans illegally, took bribes, and eventually was forced to resign his office, but not before thousand of additional Americans and millions of Vietnamese had died.


But that Hippy broad! Man, we need to totally get her!

But, but somebody else did something bad too.
No someone else did something truly horrible, and you are going on about someone who did somethng minor.

No one died because of what Dorn did. She did some property damage and had the terminity to point out that Vietnam was a horrible idea, which everyone agrees that it was.

Nixon- who did actually do a lot of good things - took actions that resulted in millions of deaths.
Now I'm not going to have this thread dissolve into an anti Vietnam war rant by you. That's trolling. I'm sick of it.

The WU were revolutionaries dedicated to taking over the government. This is well documented. Bernie and Billy state quite clearly in Prairie Fire that they wished to join with the Vietcong and others in overthrowing imperialism world wide.

But staying within certain parameters I would like to know how you would feel about group of anti abortion protestors that set their minds to blowing up every abortion clinic in America you would consider this form of protest minor?

As long as no one was hurt?

But those protestors would have every right to express their views with bombs?
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I do find it amusing that you wingnuts who insist that you need to have miltary grade weapons to fight the government are actually upset about someone who actually DID fight the government.
What military grade weapons are being insisted upon ?
Assault rifles... AR-15's... come on, don't play dumb.
Dude, you don't even have to 'play' at it, do you? You're being serious. Damn, now that's dumb.
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And if we don't get what we want, we will blow the shit out of you!
This bitch could care less about gun violence. She cares much more about blowing shit up. Hypocrite much?
Check a calender, superdupe of the greedy idiot rich- you're off by 40 years. She's a college administrator or something. ZZZZZZZZZ
But you're still tripping on acid and wearing tie-died tee-shirts to Donovan concerts. Grow the fuck up!
I consider the fact that both this terrorist bitch and her terrorist husband are now vaunted by the left as brilliant scions of modern academia makes a clear condemnation of so-called higher institutes of "learning". It certainly belies their claim that a university education imparts some higher intelligence or ability to determine what is best for other's lives.
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No lives were proven to be taken. So stop taking the law into your own hands and screaming like a lynch mob. Or be seen as closet fascists.
Terrorism is terrorism, setting off bombs is terrorism, setting off bombs with the intent of killing someone is attempted murder, the act of killing someone is still murder. No matter how you justify their actions, the fact remains, their actions and intent speaks volumes as to their true intent and that remains a fact, unfortunately our legal system failed to secure the maximum sentence for such actions. Yes, by their own words they were guilty. Franco, ones character, actions and content only become an issue when it serves your objective, such a pathetic hypocrite.
Except they never intended to hurt anyone, superdupe young punk lol. Good nite kiddies.
Never intended to hurt anyone? That is the best you have to offer in their defense? Do you even know what SDS was all about, what their objectives were, or are you once again spewing some crap you learned in nursery school?
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Terrorism is terrorism, setting off bombs is terrorism, setting off bombs with the intent of killing someone is attempted murder, the act of killing someone is still murder. No matter how you justify their actions, the fact remains, their actions and intent speaks volumes as to their true intent and that remains a fact, unfortunately our legal system failed to secure the maximum sentence for such actions. Yes, by their own words they were guilty. Franco, ones character, actions and content only become an issue when it serves your objective, such a pathetic hypocrite.
Except they never intended to hurt anyone, superdupe young punk lol. Good nite kiddies.
Never intended to hurt anyone? That is the best you have to offer in their defense? Do you even know what SDS was all about, what their objectives were, or are you once again spewing some crap you learned in nursery school?
Not only are they ignorant of the SDS, but they are obviously either delusional or naive in not understanding that Dohrn and Ayers started the Weather Underground because they didn't believe the SDS was radical enough.

Unreal.
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STFU, dupes. And stop quoting the overwrought rants of 20 year olds who were found not guilty and are rehabilitated. Your drivel is brainwashed BS..

Of course I know what SDS was- more 20 year olds who said a lot of bs... In many cases they were led by FBI undercover agents who were the worst.

You tools don't care what the USA legal system said about the Ayers' case. I think I'll go with that, not your brainwashed "no compromise, Un-American Tea Party GOP" (TIME) drivel.
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STFU, dupes. And stop quoting the overwrought rants of 20 year olds who were found not guilty and are rehabilitated. Your drivel is brainwashed BS..

Of course I know what SDS was- more 20 year olds who said a lot of bs... In many cases they were led by FBI undercover agents who were the worst.

You tools don't care what the USA legal system said about the Ayers' case. I think I'll go with that, not your brainwashed "no compromise, Un-American Tea Party GOP" (TIME) drivel.
Bullshit. They aren't rehabilitated at all. Bill and Bernie proudly claim to be socialist radicals. And Bernie started the WU because she didn't believe that the SDS were capable of being violent enough.

Now fast forward.
Billy and his adopted son, Chesa had been helping out Hugo Chavez big time.

Oh and by the way. Chesa is the son of Kathy Boudin. You know the one that was sentenced for the murder of two policemen and a Brink's security guard. Ayers adopted him.

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Bethany Stotts, August 25, 2009

At a press conference on August 20, America’s Survival, Inc. unveiled the results of several Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) requests made regarding the curriculum and activities of University of Illinois at Chicago professor Bill Ayers.

Ayers has visited Germany, the Netherlands, and Venezuela to advance his educational ideals, said Cliff Kincaid, President of America’s Survival and editor of Accuracy in Media. “The so-called World [Education] Forum in Venezuela carried the title ‘Bolivarian Education and the Overcome of the Capitalist School,’” he noted.

“Ayers in his speech of 2006 made reference then to this being his fourth trip to Venezuela”


Now let's dig a little deeper....

Ayers’ curricula relies heavily on his own publications and requires that some of his students read Pedagogy of the Oppressed by Paulo Freire.

“Freire’s polemic about radicalizing peasants refers to Mao Zedong, Josef Stalin, Vladimir Lenin, and Fidel Castro as authoritative sources; the work turns up in Ayers’ reading lists on other syllabi and in books,” wrote Grabar in another report.

However, Professor Paul Kengor noted during this conference that Freire is not uncommon pedagogical reading, saying “…when Ayers failed in the revolution he went to Columbia to John Dewey’s Columbia Teacher’s college and got his degree in education.

That’s what [1960s radicals have] done and they all use Paulo Freire’s Pedagogy of the Oppressed.”


He's still a freaking commie. And Bernie's the same and so is Chesa.

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Now I'm not going to have this thread dissolve into an anti Vietnam war rant by you. That's trolling. I'm sick of it.

The WU were revolutionaries dedicated to taking over the government. This is well documented. Bernie and Billy state quite clearly in Prairie Fire that they wished to join with the Vietcong and others in overthrowing imperialism world wide.

But staying within certain parameters I would like to know how you would feel about group of anti abortion protestors that set their minds to blowing up every abortion clinic in America you would consider this form of protest minor?

As long as no one was hurt?

But those protestors would have every right to express their views with bombs?
Where did I say she had a "right" to blow stuff up?

I was merely pointing out that those who are screaming that she has worked her way into polite society want to ignore that she was protesting something a lot worse. A war that was damned well near genocidal.

The bombings themselves were probably counterproductive. So was most of what the hippies did. People like my parents who realized the war was really a stupid idea were still turned off by what a lot of these radicals did.

Ayers and Dorn didn't go to prison, and neither did Nixon or LBJ. I guess that's a tradeoff.
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The Daily Beast’s Disgraceful Interview With Bill Ayers

April 4, 2013
By David Horowitz

Below is an email that David Horowitz sent to the editor of The Daily Beast in response to their recent interview with Bill Ayers.

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Ayers tries to wrap the civil rights movement and the Vietnam War around his crimes to exculpate himself and your fact challenged interviewer lets him do it. But Ayers was conducting bombing runs long after American troops were withdrawn from Vietnam , and when Jimmy Carter was president, he and his wife provided material aid to their friend Kathy Boudin to carry out a bank robbery which left nine children without fathers. Ayers has no regrets about launching a war that left his former lover and two other of his comrades and friends dead, and that ended pathetically when it became apparent even to them that their brand of violent extremism had completely marginalized them not just in the American mainstream but in the left itself. Shame on you for giving a platform to this malevolent narcissist to glorify himself once again.

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From testimony in front of Congress:

This exchange took place during the Government Security hearings on March 31, 1970. Senator Cook questioned Chicago gang leader Mike Soto about Bernardine Dohrn;

Senator Cook "What is your impression of Bernardine Dohrn?"

Mr Soto "I have talked to her and she is a violent maniac, because when I talked to her she said 'let's pick up arms, let's blow up this country apart until we take over'"


Extent of subversion in the new left-testimony of Marjorie King and Mike Soto 91st congress, second session part 3, March 31, 1970 page 224

Bernardine Dohrn - KeyWiki
Hmmm... doesn't sound any crazier than all the 2nd Amendment nuts who think they need military weapons to fight the government.
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