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| 4 people are dead, it makes no difference if they were murdered by terrorists protesting the movie or other terrorists murdered them, they've been killed....they are dead, either situation shows that there was not enough security, we failed, because if there was enough, the 4 would not be dead. That's what I got out of hillary's statement... |
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| Quote: We all know the Secretary is well respected and that no one with any credibility has accused her of lying because there is no credible reason for her to lie...
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| Quote: By Simon Maloy Washington Post media writer Erik Wemple has been working doggedly to correct one of Sean Hannity's favorite false claims about the attack on the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi: that State Department officials watched "real-time" video of the assault from an office in Washington, DC. Wemple's efforts got an assist from Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, who testified before the House Committee on Foreign Affairs on January 23: "There was no monitor, there was no real time." As Wemple's debunking of the falsehood makes clear, Hannity has been the primary driver of this claim by repeating on a near-daily basis. But the "real-time" video falsehood did not start with the Fox News host. In fact, one of the first mentions -- perhaps the first -- of the spurious Benghazi video was on Jennifer Rubin's Washington Post blog. The whole story starts with an October 10, 2012, hearing of the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform. At that hearing, Charlene Lamb, the deputy assistant secretary of state for international programs, had this exchange with Rep. James Lankford (R-OK), describing how she followed via telephone the developments in the Benghazi attack as they were happening: Fox News and Benghazi video: For real? - Erik Wemple - The Washington Post Drones Provided Real-Time Video Surveillance of Benghazi Attack if Dispatched in Time By Liz Klimas Oct. 29, 2012 With the Obama Administration facing criticism of being too slow in its response to attacks on the U.S. consulate in Libya on September 11, 2012, there have been allegations that the Pentagon and/or the State Department could have been watching a live feed of the violent conflict where four Americans were killed, suggesting help could have been on the way sooner. Some, such as Geraldo, have called this notion “preposterous.” But is it really? For starters, the technology does exist to provide near real-time video from surveillance drones, so the key question is whether drones were dispatched to the scene in time to provide useful information. It is clear that a real-time feed of what was going on in Benghazi from the beginning would not be available unless the surveillance technology was already set, like a drone already in place for observation. John Pike, director of Global Security.org, told TheBlaze with drone technology it would have been “quite possible” for officials to view a live feed of the attacks, “but there would have been no reason to [send a drone] in advance and not enough time once the attack started.” Reports are that two drones were diverted from original missions after two and a half hours and four hours and 15 minutes, respectively, to Benghazi. Depending on where they were coming from, it could have taken hours more before they could start sending officials images of what was going on. CBS News reported that a Predator drone was sent to scene two and a half hours into the attack. At the time it arrived, it could have allowed military officials to observe the conflict at that point. CBS went on to say that a second drone was sent four hours and 15 minutes later. Continue reading: ---> Experts: Drones Could Have Provided Real-Time Video Surveillance of Benghazi Attack if Dispatched in Time | Video | TheBlaze.com |
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| Quote: We all know the Secretary is well respected and that no one with any credibility has accused her of lying because there is no credible reason for her to lie...
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| Quote: By Simon Maloy Washington Post media writer Erik Wemple has been working doggedly to correct one of Sean Hannity's favorite false claims about the attack on the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi: that State Department officials watched "real-time" video of the assault from an office in Washington, DC. Wemple's efforts got an assist from Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, who testified before the House Committee on Foreign Affairs on January 23: "There was no monitor, there was no real time." As Wemple's debunking of the falsehood makes clear, Hannity has been the primary driver of this claim by repeating on a near-daily basis. But the "real-time" video falsehood did not start with the Fox News host. In fact, one of the first mentions -- perhaps the first -- of the spurious Benghazi video was on Jennifer Rubin's Washington Post blog. The whole story starts with an October 10, 2012, hearing of the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform. At that hearing, Charlene Lamb, the deputy assistant secretary of state for international programs, had this exchange with Rep. James Lankford (R-OK), describing how she followed via telephone the developments in the Benghazi attack as they were happening: Fox News and Benghazi video: For real? - Erik Wemple - The Washington Post |
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| When the rubes regurgitated the "Obama watched as they died" fabrication for weeks on end, they betrayed themselves as not being the slightest bit interested in discovering the truth. So any faux concern they express over Benghazi should be taken as nothing more significant than the posturing of empty-headed puppets. That's what the "what does it matter" remark by Hillary means. She is rightfully blowing off the nitwits who have false pretensions. They don't merit a response to any of their questions.
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| When the rubes regurgitated the "Obama watched as they died" fabrication for weeks on end, they betrayed themselves as not being the slightest bit interested in discovering the truth. So any faux concern they express over Benghazi should be taken as the posturing of empty-headed puppets. |
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| The pathetic revisionism begins: Drones Provided Real-Time Video Surveillance of Benghazi Attack if Dispatched in Time By Liz Klimas Oct. 29, 2012 With the Obama Administration facing criticism of being too slow in its response to attacks on the U.S. consulate in Libya on September 11, 2012, there have been allegations that the Pentagon and/or the State Department could have been watching a live feed of the violent conflict where four Americans were killed, suggesting help could have been on the way sooner. Now, it's, "Um...wellllll...such a thing is possible, but he probably...um...wasn't watching while they were actually dying. Um. Maybe a little later he was watching. Yeah. That's it."
__________________ . We have so many people who can't see a fat man standing beside a thin one without coming to the conclusion the fat man got that way by taking advantage of the thin one. - Ronald Reagan Any time you and I question the schemes of the do-gooders, we're denounced as being against their humanitarian goals. They say we're always against things, we're never for anything. The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant, it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan |
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| Quote: Administrations don't kill Ambassadors, terrorists do.
__________________ The constitutions of most of our States assert that all power is inherent in the people; that... it is their right and duty to be at all times armed. Thomas Jefferson |
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| Of course because its the current fuck in the WH they don't want any other answer than the one the administration is putting out. Of course they would never lie. They are Dems. An admiral and a general both get relieved of command?? Coincidence?? Don't know bout you but I'm not a big believer in coincidence. The State Department ignored repeated requests for more security. Hell other embassies and the Red Cross pulled out because of threats. That speaks volumes right there. No. Benghazi was a major fuck up by the fucks State Department. Its just to bad that the bosses weren't in that consulate when the attack occurred. They would be dead instead of those four very good men. |
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| Administrations don't kill Ambassadors, terrorists do. Terrorists did kill those four very good men and the administration did nothing to assist those four very good men. Terrorist might not have been able to kill them if security had been beefed up. Hell other embassies and the Red Cross pulled out because of threats. We should have done the same. Failing that we should have beefed up security big time. That wasn't done and four very good men are dead. |
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| The fact remains that the state department was apprised of the situation, yes, in real time, and lied to the American people concerning the incident. Do you think they lied to the president, too?
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| When the rubes regurgitated the "Obama watched as they died" fabrication for weeks on end, they betrayed themselves as not being the slightest bit interested in discovering the truth. So any faux concern they express over Benghazi should be taken as nothing more significant than the posturing of empty-headed puppets. That's what the "what does it matter" remark by Hillary means. She is rightfully blowing off the nitwits who have false pretensions. They don't merit a response to any of their questions. What does it matter if they were informed by telephone or video? She knew the truth and lied. Plainly, the president know the truth and, at best, was complicit in the lie to the American people.
__________________ “A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly.” -- Robert Heinlein |
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| After apologizing for his loss, Woods said Clinton told him that the U.S. would “make sure that the person who made that film is arrested and prosecuted.” Hillary Clinton to father of American murdered in Libya: We?ll ?make sure that the person who made that film is arrested and prosecuted? | RedState This was done BEFORE the election. By pointing to the video ANY possible "Terrorist" Act was refuted. The blame was first put on the video. Hillary's words. Directed by political considerations that the slogan "Osama is dead..GM alive" showed voters Obama tough on terrorists and winning the war! Blaming the video kept that falsehood alive and all to protect a political perception to secure voters for re-election! Side note... another example of MSM bias... little if ANY comment regarding Hillary's statement either at the time or in clarifying her testimony! NO MSM seemed to see the linkage between her comment to Woods' father and political expediency! |
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