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Old 11-09-2012, 12:25 AM
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Survey: Voters Reject Medicare Cuts Flat Out & Prefer Tax Hikes To Reduce Deficit

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By Sarah Bufkin and Ryan Grim

WASHINGTON -- Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security should be off the table as congressional leaders attempt to broker a deal to avoid the sequester that kicks in Jan. 1, according to a new survey from Democracy Corps and the Campaign for America's Future.

The survey by two progressive groups found that voters support an approach to the country's economic woes that includes protecting entitlement benefits as well as raising taxes on the wealthiest earners and bolstering investments to aid long-term growth.

"Americans are not looking for austerity now," said Robert Borosage, co-director of the Campaign for America's Future. "They are looking for a program, a long-term program, that will create jobs and will get the economy going and that will bring [the deficit] into balance over time."

Seventy percent of the 1,000 voters polled on Nov. 6-7 called for increased investment in Medicare, Social Security and education, as opposed to only 27 percent who advocated the across-the-board cuts that Republicans have pushed -- and to which Democrats have generally acquiesced -- in budget negotiations over the past two years. Three-fourths of voters opposed deep cuts in domestic programs, including K-12 schools and college aid. Only 25 percent found such measures acceptable.

"[Voters] would prioritize job creation first," Borosage said. "They would demand that all Americans be asked to pay their fair share of taxes and the top-end Bush tax cuts not be extended. They would protect Medicare, Social Security, Medicaid, and they would protect vital services for the most vulnerable. These are the principles that, as we showed, overwhelming majorities of American voters [hold]."
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Old 11-09-2012, 12:26 AM
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"Americans are not looking for austerity now," said Robert Borosage, co-director of the Campaign for America's Future. "They are looking for a program, a long-term program, that will create jobs and will get the economy going and that will bring [the deficit] into balance over time."
I totally agree! This is the most logical and sane approach.
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Old 11-09-2012, 12:35 AM
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Proving that a majority of voters are so damn stupid they probably shouldn't be voting.
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Old 11-09-2012, 12:39 AM
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WASHINGTON -- Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security should be off the table as congressional leaders attempt to broker a deal to avoid the sequester that kicks in Jan. 1, according to a new survey from Democracy Corps and the Campaign for America's Future.

The survey by two progressive groups found that voters support an approach to the country's economic woes that includes protecting entitlement benefits as well as raising taxes on the wealthiest earners and bolstering investments to aid long-term growth.

"Americans are not looking for austerity now," said Robert Borosage, co-director of the Campaign for America's Future. "They are looking for a program, a long-term program, that will create jobs and will get the economy going and that will bring [the deficit] into balance over time."

Seventy percent of the 1,000 voters polled on Nov. 6-7 called for increased investment in Medicare, Social Security and education, as opposed to only 27 percent who advocated the across-the-board cuts that Republicans have pushed -- and to which Democrats have generally acquiesced -- in budget negotiations over the past two years. Three-fourths of voters opposed deep cuts in domestic programs, including K-12 schools and college aid. Only 25 percent found such measures acceptable.

"[Voters] would prioritize job creation first," Borosage said. "They would demand that all Americans be asked to pay their fair share of taxes and the top-end Bush tax cuts not be extended. They would protect Medicare, Social Security, Medicaid, and they would protect vital services for the most vulnerable. These are the principles that, as we showed, overwhelming majorities of American voters [hold]."
More: Voters Reject Medicare Cuts Flat Out, Prefer Tax Hikes To Reduce Deficit: Survey
Someone should tell them now that the election is safely over that Obama gutted 716 billion dollars from Medicare to hide the price of Obamacare. Good luck finding a doctor seniors. Doctor's want to get paid.
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Old 11-09-2012, 01:10 AM
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Republicans like to talk about America becoming Greece. They should certainly be concerned. For the past 5 years Greece and other European countries have been pursuing the Republican's agenda for "growth", by savagely cutting social programs and gutting the government sector. The result has been an unimaginable economic depression, much worse than anything seen this side of the Atlantic.

Of course voters don't want any of it to be on the table. This is why Republicans must engage in doublethink. They must simultaneously pretend to be protectors of programs like Medicare and social security (like Vel's post above) while also denouncing how government cannot and should not do anything and very openly saying the programs must be dismantled - dismantled to be saved, because 'we cannot afford them.'
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By Sarah Bufkin and Ryan Grim

WASHINGTON -- Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security should be off the table as congressional leaders attempt to broker a deal to avoid the sequester that kicks in Jan. 1, according to a new survey from Democracy Corps and the Campaign for America's Future.

The survey by two progressive groups found that voters support an approach to the country's economic woes that includes protecting entitlement benefits as well as raising taxes on the wealthiest earners and bolstering investments to aid long-term growth.

"Americans are not looking for austerity now," said Robert Borosage, co-director of the Campaign for America's Future. "They are looking for a program, a long-term program, that will create jobs and will get the economy going and that will bring [the deficit] into balance over time."

Seventy percent of the 1,000 voters polled on Nov. 6-7 called for increased investment in Medicare, Social Security and education, as opposed to only 27 percent who advocated the across-the-board cuts that Republicans have pushed -- and to which Democrats have generally acquiesced -- in budget negotiations over the past two years. Three-fourths of voters opposed deep cuts in domestic programs, including K-12 schools and college aid. Only 25 percent found such measures acceptable.

"[Voters] would prioritize job creation first," Borosage said. "They would demand that all Americans be asked to pay their fair share of taxes and the top-end Bush tax cuts not be extended. They would protect Medicare, Social Security, Medicaid, and they would protect vital services for the most vulnerable. These are the principles that, as we showed, overwhelming majorities of American voters [hold]."
More: Voters Reject Medicare Cuts Flat Out, Prefer Tax Hikes To Reduce Deficit: Survey
One of the biggest problems in trying to deal with SS and Medicare is that nobody is willing to sacrifice. That is why I believe the easiest and most logical answer is to raise the retirement age. At some point, everyone is going to have to be honest and deal with this.
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I have to agree. However, at present there is a problem to be overcome. It's one thing if the older workers are at desks or work-at-home jobs, but too many are in blue-collar labor jobs - it's too strenuous for them.
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Proving that a majority of voters are so damn stupid they probably shouldn't be voting.
Voters are not stupid enough to believe we should cut programs for the poor and elderly while giving tax cuts to the rich, double the military, trillions to Israel(which has government healthcare and generous retirement) while letting big multinational corporations(who pay no taxes) ship American jobs overseas.
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Social Security has been tuned and tweaked several times over the years to keep it solvent for new generations, and it will likely need the same many times in the future. It just needs to be done reasonably without the GOP scare tactics.
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Old 11-09-2012, 03:06 AM
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First of all Social Security is NOT broke.

We need to stop telling ourselves that it is.

However anything involving heath care IS a mess and a potential fiscal disaster.

Clearly we have not yet found the stones to make the dramatic changes we need to really sove this problem.

ACA does NOT address the underlying problems facing us with the HC crises.

In fact, I believe that ACA actually exascerbates that looming problem.
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Old 11-09-2012, 03:11 AM
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The voters will get reductions in medicare(760 billion dollars) and huge tax increases. I hope they enjoy them.

They will also pay more for medical and more people will die because of it.
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I totally agree! This is the most logical and sane approach.
of course you do
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lol, this is a survey by two PROGRESSIVE groups..

You all know in order to be progressive you have to tax the people
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