The Recent John Sununu Fiasco Is Just More Reason Y 2day's Republicans Get No Respect

Uh-huh...And white people who voted for Obiedoodle because he's black couldn't possibly be racist, huh?

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Why do you claim he simply "put his foot in his mouth?" How do you derive at this conclussion? Are you saying he doesn't believe what he's saying? He worded what he meant wrongly? If so, then what's he trying to say? It's pretty clear what he said and what he means. Yet, you are unwilling to call him on it. That's one.

Two, why must you state something including "the other side." There's no "other side" here. This is the Republicans engaging in one of their favorite pasttimes. There's no equivalency here...I've stated as much. Why not take personal responsibility for the action of a CURRNET PUBLIC REPRESENTATIVE of your party.

That brings me to three...you vehemently state that Sununu does not speak for you personally, yet you are still unwilling and unable to condemn his actions. Why is this? Do you agree with him? If not state so. This is part of taking personal responibility. What you do when you do not condemn him is condone him. You're saying it's OK to do this, no one will hold you accountable. That means it will continue to happen again. So you're last statement "I suspect they always shall" becomes more of a self-fulfilling prophecy because of Republicans like you who do NOT and/or REFUSE to condemn these nasty and offensive actions of your party.

So you can see how it's hard to take you/your words/your party seriously considering all this. And that's putting it nicely.

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Until conservatives once again hold Republicans to the same standard they hold Democrats, they will have no credibility and deserve no respect.
- Bruce Bartlett (R)
Let's face it -- when our "Christianity" makes us unloving we obviously don't have the real thing, even if we are correct on all the doctrines. But when we realize that Christ, through the grace of God, has truly rescued us from the pit on sin, our response will be love. A lack of it indicates that we have yet to be rescued ourselves.
- George R. Knight
Not that which goeth into the mouth defileth a man; but that which cometh out of the mouth, this defileth a man. - Matthew 15:11

too bad, we don't have to condemn him and your views of these THINGS are nasty offensive actions..YOU all don't make up the rules of what are racism, nasty or offensive that we all have to live by..WE have freedom of speech and will not BE SHUT up by you people
You don't condemn you party, so you don't get to tell us to CONDEMN ANYTHING

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"A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself."
Tullius Cicero (106-43 BC)
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"Those who would give up essential Liberty to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
-- Ben Franklin

This article really nails it and is a perfect response to your post.
Treating Colin Powell as

Here's a more honest assessment of Powell's reasoning than the dishonest assessment in your post and the other posts like it.
"Yesterday, Colin Powell endorsed Barack Obama for president, explaining that he believes the incumbent has done a good job on the economy given the situation he was handed. As a former secretary of state and former chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Powell also took serious issue with the foreign policy stances of Obama’s opponent, Mitt Romney, saying that ” I’m not quite sure which Governor Romney we would be getting with respect to foreign policy”:

“One day he has a certain strong view about staying in Afghanistan, but then on Monday night he agrees with the withdrawal. Same thing in Iraq. On almost every issue that was discussed on Monday night, Governor Romney agreed with the President with some nuances. But this is quite a different set of foreign policy views than he had earlier in the campaign. And my concern, which I’ve expressed previously in a public way, is that sometimes I don’t sense that he has thought through these issues as thoroughly as he should have, and he gets advice from his campaign staff that he then has to adjust to modify as he goes along.

INTERVIEWER: Are you concerned about the people that are advising Governor Romney?

POWELL: I think there’s some very, very strong neo-conservative views that are presented by the Governor that I have some trouble with. There are other issues as well, not just the economy and foreign policy. I’m more comfortable with President Obama and his administration when it comes to issues like what are we going to do about climate, what are we going to do about immigration? What are we going to do about education? Lots of things like that. I do not want to see the new Obamacare plan thrown off the table. It has issues, you have to fix some things in that plan. But what I see when I look at that plan is 30 million of our fellow citizens will now be covered by insurance. And I think that’s good. We’re one of the few nations in the world, with our size, population and wealth, that does not have universal health care.”
Colin Powell endorses Obama; Sununu, McCain go nuts | Jay Bookman

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"Liberalism (from the Latin liberalis)[1] is the belief in the importance of liberty and equal rights.[2] Liberals espouse a wide array of views depending on their understanding of these principles, but generally liberals support ideas such as constitutionalism, liberal democracy, free and fair elections, human rights, capitalism, and freedom of religion."
"The revolutionaries in the American Revolution and the French Revolution used liberal philosophy to justify the armed overthrow of tyrannical rule."
"Early liberals also laid the groundwork for the separation of church and state."

Welcome to advetures in missing the point.

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Republicans get angry when it is said that it is the party to which Racists and Bigots flock.

And then they prove it.

Here's another dumb and dishonest statement made by you that is easily debunked. What was the percent of Black who voted for Alan Keyes when he ran for President? Who would "the Blacks" vote for if it was Bill Clinton vs Alan west? How about Hillary Clinton vs Herman Cain? Thanks for the laugh!

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"Liberalism (from the Latin liberalis)[1] is the belief in the importance of liberty and equal rights.[2] Liberals espouse a wide array of views depending on their understanding of these principles, but generally liberals support ideas such as constitutionalism, liberal democracy, free and fair elections, human rights, capitalism, and freedom of religion."
"The revolutionaries in the American Revolution and the French Revolution used liberal philosophy to justify the armed overthrow of tyrannical rule."
"Early liberals also laid the groundwork for the separation of church and state."

Don't you think that there are different political factions in the republican party? Has Ron Paul endorsed Mitt Romney? Charlie Crist endorsed Obama.

Supporters | Republicans for Obama

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"Liberalism (from the Latin liberalis)[1] is the belief in the importance of liberty and equal rights.[2] Liberals espouse a wide array of views depending on their understanding of these principles, but generally liberals support ideas such as constitutionalism, liberal democracy, free and fair elections, human rights, capitalism, and freedom of religion."
"The revolutionaries in the American Revolution and the French Revolution used liberal philosophy to justify the armed overthrow of tyrannical rule."
"Early liberals also laid the groundwork for the separation of church and state."

sununu is probably right.

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"Who is John Galt?" - Atlas Shrugged

If allowing someone to own and carry a gun saves one child's life it's well worth it - Me

Thanks for proving my point by doubling down.

Do keep it up.

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Until conservatives once again hold Republicans to the same standard they hold Democrats, they will have no credibility and deserve no respect.
- Bruce Bartlett (R)
Let's face it -- when our "Christianity" makes us unloving we obviously don't have the real thing, even if we are correct on all the doctrines. But when we realize that Christ, through the grace of God, has truly rescued us from the pit on sin, our response will be love. A lack of it indicates that we have yet to be rescued ourselves.
- George R. Knight
Not that which goeth into the mouth defileth a man; but that which cometh out of the mouth, this defileth a man. - Matthew 15:11

Ditto to my previous post.

Thanks!

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Until conservatives once again hold Republicans to the same standard they hold Democrats, they will have no credibility and deserve no respect.
- Bruce Bartlett (R)
Let's face it -- when our "Christianity" makes us unloving we obviously don't have the real thing, even if we are correct on all the doctrines. But when we realize that Christ, through the grace of God, has truly rescued us from the pit on sin, our response will be love. A lack of it indicates that we have yet to be rescued ourselves.
- George R. Knight
Not that which goeth into the mouth defileth a man; but that which cometh out of the mouth, this defileth a man. - Matthew 15:11

Can you repeat that Mr. Phoenix?

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Until conservatives once again hold Republicans to the same standard they hold Democrats, they will have no credibility and deserve no respect.
- Bruce Bartlett (R)
Let's face it -- when our "Christianity" makes us unloving we obviously don't have the real thing, even if we are correct on all the doctrines. But when we realize that Christ, through the grace of God, has truly rescued us from the pit on sin, our response will be love. A lack of it indicates that we have yet to be rescued ourselves.
- George R. Knight
Not that which goeth into the mouth defileth a man; but that which cometh out of the mouth, this defileth a man. - Matthew 15:11

Excellent points!

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"Liberalism (from the Latin liberalis)[1] is the belief in the importance of liberty and equal rights.[2] Liberals espouse a wide array of views depending on their understanding of these principles, but generally liberals support ideas such as constitutionalism, liberal democracy, free and fair elections, human rights, capitalism, and freedom of religion."
"The revolutionaries in the American Revolution and the French Revolution used liberal philosophy to justify the armed overthrow of tyrannical rule."
"Early liberals also laid the groundwork for the separation of church and state."

I will also add that this thread does demonstrate the mindset of some White republicans attitude towards Black people in general and Black politicians specifically; It seems that as long as a Black republican makes blanket and inaccurate as well as insulting and demeaning comments in the form of generalizations about Black people who vote democrat and Black people in general, they are considered "free thinkers" and the "good Blacks". They had those same thoughts about Colin Powell until he started speaking his mind and truly being a FREE THINKER and promoting his vision of the republican party. Now he's a "racist", now those pukes who don't even qualify to clean his jock strap will hurl all sorts of insults towards Colin Powell.

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"Liberalism (from the Latin liberalis)[1] is the belief in the importance of liberty and equal rights.[2] Liberals espouse a wide array of views depending on their understanding of these principles, but generally liberals support ideas such as constitutionalism, liberal democracy, free and fair elections, human rights, capitalism, and freedom of religion."
"The revolutionaries in the American Revolution and the French Revolution used liberal philosophy to justify the armed overthrow of tyrannical rule."
"Early liberals also laid the groundwork for the separation of church and state."

OMG..your whine over Colin Powell is hilarious..when during Bush you hated his guts. Now he's become a hero to you lefties just because he endorses Obama OVER his own Party..you people are so transparent

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"A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself."
Tullius Cicero (106-43 BC)
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"Those who would give up essential Liberty to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
-- Ben Franklin

The Republican Party...so accepting of those who may differ in some times...some details.

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